Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

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  • Topdog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7471

    #76
    Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

    Phenomenal innings from Stokes. To get a team out for 67 and lose the match is going to sting for a long long time. It took until there were 2 runs to win before we finally put pressure on the batsmen. Terrible captaincy, terrible bowling, terrible fielding in that last hour

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    • Happy Days
      Hall of Fame
      • May 2008
      • 10143

      #77
      Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

      Originally posted by Topdog
      Yep wasted review when the bowler said it was outside leg has cost the match
      Maybe so, but who let Joel Wilson umpire another test after the disgraceful showing in the first test?
      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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      • The Doctor
        Coaching Staff
        • Jan 2007
        • 3702

        #78
        Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

        shocking captaincy, what a choke
        Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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        • lemmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2008
          • 6522

          #79
          Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

          Don't think you win the Ashes after that.

          From Harris' drop to Lyon's fumble, that was a real choke.

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          • The Pie Man
            Coaching Staff
            • May 2008
            • 3497

            #80
            Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

            That will give Paine & Lyon some serious nightmares
            Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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            • Topdog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7471

              #81
              Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

              Originally posted by Happy Days
              Maybe so, but who let Joel Wilson umpire another test after the disgraceful showing in the first test?
              You don't overrule your bowler like that. It was missing by a mile. Dreadful decision

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #82
                Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

                Originally posted by Topdog
                You don't overrule your bowler like that. It was missing by a mile. Dreadful decision
                I can understand (not endorse) why Wilson had doubt about which leg it hit first. But I can't understand Paine doing something as pointlessly and reckless as risking the ashes, which is now a thing because he did.

                On a discussion for another day, the poor decision and review system showed how tests can have literally have 'wrong' results. Something needs to change from the ICC level. Dumb reviews and incorrect decisions don't cancel each other out.

                And Harris if you can't catch or throw, I have no idea what you are doing playing test match cricket because your nice 'starts' are crap.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #83
                  Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

                  Shane Watson is the master of reviews compared to Paine. The 'out' ones aren't actually challenged, and the not out ones get confirmed and reviewed burned. I didn't think we'd get someone has horrible inept to judge reviews as Watson, but Watto, hand over the mantle.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 21834

                    #84
                    Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

                    It’s funny how all the decisions go a particular way in England.

                    The arsehole should have been behind bars anyway, nothing shows the colonialist bullshit like Stokes being able to play cricket.
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21834

                      #85
                      Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      I can understand (not endorse) why Wilson had doubt about which leg it hit first. But I can't understand Paine doing something as pointlessly and reckless as risking the ashes, which is now a thing because he did.

                      On a discussion for another day, the poor decision and review system showed how tests can have literally have 'wrong' results. Something needs to change from the ICC level. Dumb reviews and incorrect decisions don't cancel each other out.



                      And Harris if you can't catch or throw, I have no idea what you are doing playing test match cricket because your nice 'starts' are crap.
                      The matches go for five days , review everything, time isn’t an issue.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • FrediKanoute
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 3831

                        #86
                        Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

                        Originally posted by Topdog
                        Phenomenal innings from Stokes. To get a team out for 67 and lose the match is going to sting for a long long time. It took until there were 2 runs to win before we finally put pressure on the batsmen. Terrible captaincy, terrible bowling, terrible fielding in that last hour
                        Agree with all of this. His innings was sensational. Its exactly what a clean hitting batsman can do.

                        Agree also we got it wrong today, big time. We were so desperate for the new ball we forgot what it was about that new ball that makes it so dangerous. We pitched short, around leg and generally made it easy for Bairstow and Stokes to play themselves in. We wasted the new ball, but worse we actually allowed them to wrest control and whittle down the runs.

                        That last hour, again silly bowling. We tried to bounce out a set batsman. we allowed him to grab singles off the 5th/6th ball of each over and worse we leaked runs all over the park. Then when the chances came, we muffed them.....Harris drops a difficult one. Lyon fumbles a simple run out; we throw another run out chance to he wrong end; and then.....we waste a review.

                        Basically, as a team we cracked under pressure. The problem was though that we allowed them to put us under pressure. If we had stuck to the plan, kept with our line and and length, we would have won this test.

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                        • FrediKanoute
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3831

                          #87
                          Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

                          Originally posted by lemmon
                          Don't think you win the Ashes after that.

                          From Harris' drop to Lyon's fumble, that was a real choke.
                          Going to take a bit to come back from. Really though, we lost this game as much with the bat as anything. 179 in the 1st innings and 246 in the 2nd is hardly match winning stuff. We had a chance in the 2nd dig to bat looong and failed. The fact that only Lambuschagne was capable of putting his head down and grinding our a decent score is why we lost this test. If that 246 had been 300 or 350, it was game over.

                          If you look at the dismissal's in the 2nd innings and Harris and Khawaja stand out as guys who wasted starts. Head copped a beauty, but still, he was bowled twice in the test. Is it a technique issue? Wade.....batted well for 33, but needed to hang about. Gloving one off Stokes is disappointing.

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14313

                            #88
                            Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

                            Originally posted by jeemak
                            It’s funny how all the decisions go a particular way in England.

                            The arsehole should have been behind bars anyway, nothing shows the colonialist bullshit like Stokes being able to play cricket.
                            Wow .. you think players who used sandpaper in the highest grade should be able to keep playing?
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • ledge
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 14313

                              #89
                              Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

                              Originally posted by ledge
                              Wow .. you think players who used sandpaper in the highest grade should be able to keep playing?
                              England was all out for 67 in the first dig, your scraping the barrel to not accept Australia stuffed up with bad decisions in the second innings , dropped catches , bad reviews .
                              Stokes was incredible what he did one night at a night club a while ago ( and we all make mistakes) has no bearing whatsoever on the test.
                              And to say he is an areshole is pretty small minded.
                              Bring back the biff

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                              • Ozza
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 6402

                                #90
                                Re: Third Ashes Test - Headingley August 22 to 26 2019

                                Can't blame the umpires or the DRS. Paine's handling of the 2nd innings was atrocious. And I'm getting quite sick of him appealing every time an opposition plays and misses when he knows it isn't out.

                                The DRS has been a complete c0ck up from the start, and has made umpires second guess themselves and become poor at their jobs. But we can't blame it for the way we lost.

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