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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18820

    #46
    Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

    Originally posted by chef
    Will shake things up. Going to be a lot of human rights protests too.
    England are in bed with the Saudis would be short sighted.

    Plus Qatar and the Chelsea mobster.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14539

      #47
      Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

      Originally posted by Grantysghost
      England are in bed with the Saudis would be short sighted.

      Plus Qatar and the Chelsea mobster.
      UAE as well.

      Saudis is next level though in terms of wealth(and human rights abuse), this is going to get bonkers.
      The curse is dead.

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      • The Underdog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Aug 2007
        • 6778

        #48
        Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

        Originally posted by chef
        UAE as well.

        Saudis is next level though in terms of wealth(and human rights abuse), this is going to get bonkers.
        Like jumping out of the frying pan and into the underground torture room where guards hack you into pieces.
        It won’t matter ultimately but there’ll be some high level pushback against this in the press.
        Park that car
        Drop that phone
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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18820

          #49
          Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

          Originally posted by The Underdog
          Like jumping out of the frying pan and into the underground torture room where guards hack you into pieces.
          It won’t matter ultimately but there’ll be some high level pushback against this in the press.
          The Yanks bomb civilians I mean it’s all relative. I agree of course, but the Saudis aren’t Robinson Crusoe.

          More importantly - where’s Jeemak!

          We need to get a house for Haaland in Ponteland (Toorak of the NE)
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • The Underdog
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Aug 2007
            • 6778

            #50
            Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

            Originally posted by Grantysghost
            The Yanks bomb civilians I mean it’s all relative. I agree of course, but the Saudis aren’t Robinson Crusoe.

            More importantly - where’s Jeemak!

            We need to get a house for Haaland in Ponteland (Toorak of the NE)
            I don’t disagree necessarily, but I think the important difference there is that the US owners of Football teams aren’t directly involved in the US government, where this consortium has very direct links to the Saudi state. There’s no doubt that dubious actors have passed the Premier League’s ownership “test” before but this will be more controversial than most. Amnesty have already come out against it.
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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18820

              #51
              Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

              Originally posted by The Underdog
              I don’t disagree necessarily, but I think the important difference there is that the US owners of Football teams aren’t directly involved in the US government, where this consortium has very direct links to the Saudi state. There’s no doubt that dubious actors have passed the Premier League’s ownership “test” before but this will be more controversial than most. Amnesty have already come out against it.
              Look I hear you, and it’s a complex issue. Certainly many of these states have huge controlling interests in sport now. I do think there has been a smear campaign against this deal as a protective mechanism for the big 5 (nobody takes Tottenham seriously) and you don’t have to look much further than the super league to see where their intentions lie.

              Qatar have controlling interests in BeIN, PSG and have been lambasted for their corruption in gaining the World Cup and their use of the labour market in building stadiums.

              Migrants building a stadium for the 2022 football World Cup in Qatar are abused and exploited.


              The PIF have clearly proven they aren’t controlled by the Saudi state enough to satisfy the owners and directors test and I don’t see it any differently from other powerful interests having controlling stakes in the league.

              Personally I’d do away with private ownership, let’s face it when you see Man City players celebrating against Brentford you have to laugh to think they actually think they’ve won because they’re deserving and it’s a level playing field.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • The Underdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2007
                • 6778

                #52
                Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                Look I hear you, and it’s a complex issue. Certainly many of these states have huge controlling interests in sport now. I do think there has been a smear campaign against this deal as a protective mechanism for the big 5 (nobody takes Tottenham seriously) and you don’t have to look much further than the super league to see where their intentions lie.

                Qatar have controlling interests in BeIN, PSG and have been lambasted for their corruption in gaining the World Cup and their use of the labour market in building stadiums.

                Migrants building a stadium for the 2022 football World Cup in Qatar are abused and exploited.


                The PIF have clearly proven they aren’t controlled by the Saudi state enough to satisfy the owners and directors test and I don’t see it any differently from other powerful interests having controlling stakes in the league.

                Personally I’d do away with private ownership, let’s face it when you see Man City players celebrating against Brentford you have to laugh to think they actually think they’ve won because they’re deserving and it’s a level playing field.
                This is a really great and nuanced take, from Arseblog of all places

                If there’s one thing you need to be good at these days to be a football fan, it’s mental gymnastics. I’ve been reading a bit about Newcastle’s impending takeover by a Saudi Arabian consortium who, according to assurances given to the Premier League, will not be merely a vehicle for the Saudi state. As if […]
                Park that car
                Drop that phone
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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21508

                  #53
                  Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • Grantysghost
                    Bouncing Strong
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 18820

                    #54
                    Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

                    Originally posted by The Underdog
                    This is a really great and nuanced take, from Arseblog of all places

                    https://arseblog.com/2021/10/the-premier-league-camel/
                    They’ve nailed it.
                    BT COME BACK!​

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18820

                      #55
                      Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

                      Originally posted by jeemak
                      It’s our time to shine JM!

                      I’m just wondering if we should go with Haaland and Mbappe up front in a 442 or go a midfield diamond with Mbop as the 10 fed from my Norwegian brethren back to goal.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21508

                        #56
                        Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

                        I'm actually conflicted here. I hate Ashley and I definitely hate oppressive shitheads......

                        But ultimately we're all hypocrites in our own ways and this is just another example of how I'll end up considering myself as one.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21508

                          #57
                          Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

                          Originally posted by Grantysghost
                          It’s our time to shine JM!

                          I’m just wondering if we should go with Haaland and Mbappe up front in a 442 or go a midfield diamond with Mbop as the 10 fed from my Norwegian brethren back to goal.
                          Bring back Ruud on the promise of sexy footbol.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18820

                            #58
                            Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

                            Originally posted by jeemak
                            Bring back Ruud on the promise of sexy footbol.
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21508

                              #59
                              Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

                              Hmmmm, whether the numbers are OK or whether they're not, I'm not ready to gloat.

                              As a humble Magpie (if I can say that on this board), all I want is some positivity at the transfer table and on the pitch. I don't want gimmicks, I just want people to come to the club and actually believe there is a future for them, that may not be mediocrity at best.

                              You may have picked up over time that I am pretty passionate about the Bulldogs, however, I have never written into the club to tell them of my objections to management and direction. Thirteen or fourteen years ago I actually did that with Newcastle, as someone who jumped on in 1994. At that stage I was only a 13-14 year supporter of the club, I was so incensed because they always talk about how the local fans are suffering without any regard for those abroad who if they had their shit together could have made them more powerful than they were at the time.

                              As such, I hope we have the resources to expand, and at least have some *!*!*!*!ing hope of being something befitting our stature as owners of the north. The owners of Chelsea, Man C. or whomever have their issues, we now have ours. I hope people can get over the brown shadow and see that Oligarchs are Oligarchs, no matter race religion or creed. If we're going to support and follow a competition that is no holds barred, then this is what it is and we just have to accept it.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • Grantysghost
                                Bouncing Strong
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 18820

                                #60
                                Re: EPL 2021-2022 Season

                                Agree with all that J.

                                As long as they invest in the team (facilities, academy, coaching, youth program) and the community I'll be a happy adopted Geordie.

                                Would I prefer it wasn't the Saudis? Sure.
                                Would I set a salary cap? Definitely.

                                Is it annoying asking yourself questions and answering them? Undoubtedly.

                                For now I'm going to gloat just a little.

                                Especially to Aston Villa fans.

                                Sob on the Tyne? JOG ON!
                                BT COME BACK!​

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