Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

If Green is fit for next might as well open with him

Right now poor old Davey would be the worst batsman on the list!

[macca]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

If Green is fit for next test might as well open with him

Good idea, would not be surprised if they try something left field

I think it probably be Head or Marsh to open , Green back
warner dropped . His got no idea against Broad. Proba ly played his last test
3rd time in the series, dismissed by Broad

The ball is keeping .low, so could slow up in next few days

[Bornadog]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

Think I've finally come around, don't think Warner can play the fourth test. This is worse than Warne with Cullinan.

Surely Renshaw gets a go

[lemmon]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

I think if Australia lose this Test, it'll be on the back of Marnus' and Smith's dismissals from Moeen. Two mindless shots from the two guys that are meant to be the linchpins of this batting line-up.

It would be such a missed opportunity as well. With Stokes and Robinson not able to bowl, there's an opportunity to bleed plenty of runs from Ali.

[GVGjr]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

I think if Australia lose this Test, it'll be on the back of Marnus' and Smith's dismissals from Moeen. Two mindless shots from the two guys that are meant to be the linchpins of this batting line-up.

It would be such a missed opportunity as well. With Stokes and Robinson not able to bowl, there's an opportunity to bleed plenty of runs from Ali.

Marnus has had 6 bats so far in this series and hasn't made a 50. He's not the force he was previously.

[Bornadog]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

Marnus has had 6 bats so far in this series and hasn't made a 50. He's not the force he was previously.

Doesn’t help when he is virtually opening with Warner out cheaply

[lemmon]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

Marnus has had 6 bats so far in this series and hasn't made a 50. He's not the force he was previously.

Yeah, he's an interesting one. There's obviously been a lot written about his abnormal luck in the past in terms of dropped chances and how that compares historically. He's also a guy whose poor overseas record slinks under the radar a little bit. I think some of this might be a little bit of a reversion to mean. He's a good player, but I don't think he's a 50 test batting average player

[lemmon]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

Doesn’t help when he is virtually opening with Warner out cheaply

Yeah, nah. Prior to this Test he's come in at 29, 61, 73 and 63. This is the first Test where you could say the opening partnership has failed, which is why the selectors have a huge decision on Warner (and I'd imagine Broad is rested for the fourth test).

Marn got himself out here twice, twice at Birmingham and in the second innings at Lord's. He's played some particularly indulgent cricket and only has himself to blame for a lean series.

[jeemak]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

To be fair it's not up to the selectors, we need to hear what Candice Warner thinks and act accordingly.

[macca]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

Yeah, nah. Prior to this Test he's come in at 29, 61, 73 and 63. This is the first Test where you could say the opening partnership has failed, which is why the selectors have a huge decision on Warner (and I'd imagine Broad is rested for the fourth test).

Marn got himself out here twice, twice at Birmingham and in the second innings at Lord's. He's played some particularly indulgent cricket and only has himself to blame for a lean series.

Marn needs to play within himself and not get out like he did this innings. His made a start in most of his inninngs. He should know his game well enough to correct. Really disappointed he got out today , as it was a wicket where he had to bat till the end of the day and just tire the English bowlers.

[GVGjr]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

Doesn’t help when he is virtually opening with Warner out cheaply

That's actually the life of a #3 batsman and they shouldn't need good starts.
Lets actually have a close look at Labuschagne batting so far because I don't think coming in early is the problem you might think.

1st Test
A first ball duck in the 1st inning and 13 in the 2nd (This was after a 61 run opening partnership)
Out both times to Broad.

2nd Test
1st Innings 47 (after a 73 run opening partnership) 30 (After a 63 run opening partnership)

3rd Test
1st Innings 21 (in early) 2nd innings 33 (In early)

He's getting off to enough starts just not going on with it.
It's easy to just blame Warner and we have probably seen enough to say he's not up to it but the lean run of Marnus is his own doing and not a lot to do with Warner.

[Bornadog]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

That's actually the life of a #3 batsman and they shouldn't need good starts.
Lets actually have a close look at Labuschagne batting so far because I don't think coming in early is the problem you might think.

1st Test
A first ball duck in the 1st inning and 13 in the 2nd (This was after a 61 run opening partnership)
Out both times to Broad.

2nd Test
1st Innings 47 (after a 73 run opening partnership) 30 (After a 63 run opening partnership)

3rd Test
1st Innings 21 (in early) 2nd innings 33 (In early)

He's getting off to enough starts just not going on with it.
It's easy to just blame Warner and we have probably seen enough to say he's not up to it but the lean run of Marnus is his own doing and not a lot to do with Warner.

I didn't blame Warner totally, I said it doesn't help his cause when he comes in early.

[GVGjr]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

I didn't blame Warner totally, I said it doesn't help his cause when he comes in early.

But Labuschagne should also be under the microscope not just Warner.
The number 3 should be comfortable coming in especially after the opening bowlers have been seen off and yet he's failing to capitalize on mostly steady starts. He's made it to double figures in 5 of his 6 starts and yet hasn't made a 50.

It's not just Warner letting the side down at the moment.

[Bornadog]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

But Labuschagne should also be under the microscope not just Warner.
The number 3 should be comfortable coming in especially after the opening bowlers have been seen off and yet he's failing to capitalize on mostly steady starts. He's made it to double figures in 5 of his 6 starts and yet hasn't made a 50.

It's not just Warner letting the side down at the moment.

Agree he is not playing up to the ability he has shown in the past.

The trouble with Warner is the same as the last Ashes series in England. He should never have been on the tour. (Have I mentioned that before )

[Bornadog]

Re: Ashes 3rd Test - Thursday July 6-Monday July 10, Headingley

Head with a 77 gives us some chance. I think it is forecast to rain again today with England needing 224 to win