First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

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  • Greystache
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Dec 2009
    • 9775

    Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

    Originally posted by jeemak
    So in the snippets on the Sky site it says he suffers from anxiety. Are we now saying he doesn't suffer from anxiety?

    Forgive me if the videos go into more depth.
    Trott: I wasn't depressed, just physically and mentally shot - that's why I quit Ashes tour

    Basically he wasn't making any runs and was down about it.

    England has Sri Lanka coming up at home and he's keen to get back in the team.
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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21836

      Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

      Hmmm, doesn't sound like test cricket is the sport for him.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • Happy Days
        Hall of Fame
        • May 2008
        • 10145

        Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

        Originally posted by Greystache
        Trott: I wasn't depressed, just physically and mentally shot - that's why I quit Ashes tour

        Basically he wasn't making any runs and was down about it.

        England has Sri Lanka coming up at home and he's keen to get back in the team.
        That really bugs me then.

        Without going into too much detail this topic is not something I feel comfortable being cynical about, but still that's pretty low.
        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66773

          Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

          If he was physically and mentally shot then he did the right thing for the team to quit and go home.
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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27655

            Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

            Originally posted by jeemak
            Hmmm, doesn't sound like test cricket is the sport for him.

            Exactly.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • Greystache
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

              Originally posted by bornadog
              If he was physically and mentally shot then he did the right thing for the team to quit and go home.
              So you'll be ok if at round 12 this season the Bulldogs are losing, and Ryan Griffen isn't playing well, that he announces he going to sit out the rest of the season because he's shot?
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              • Bornadog
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                • Jan 2007
                • 66773

                Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

                Originally posted by Greystache
                So you'll be ok if at round 12 this season the Bulldogs are losing, and Ryan Griffen isn't playing well, that he announces he going to sit out the rest of the season because he's shot?
                If he is shot, he is shot. If there is nothing anyone can do to help him, what do you expect??
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                • Greystache
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9775

                  Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  If he is shot, he is shot. If there is nothing anyone can do to help him, what do you expect??
                  Shot- Code for weak as piss when it gets tough.

                  I would expect him to stand by his mates and tough it out for the team. I would never want to play with a guy who quit like that ever again. Graeme Swann is the same, he took the slightly less cowardly step of retiring mid-losing series, although his pathetic justification for it was almost as weak.
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                  • KT31
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 5454

                    Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    It shits me tears. I won't declare anything I've suffered from ATM, but I'm about to commence a defamation action against someone who abused knowledge of it (god it's expensive). I hate not only the wide spread ignorance, but to leverage against people that actually have it is cutting. It's no different then faking a physical injury in the Paralympics.
                    Excellent synopsis BT and I hope all goes well with your case.
                    Unfortunately Trott will not be the last to fane an illness or injury and it just makes the case of the next sportsperson who actually has a illness that little bit harder to believe.
                    More the 'Boy who pretended to cry over wolf' than the 'Boy who cried wolf'.
                    Being under pressure and not being able to cope is just a character floor it does not mean you have anxiety or depression.
                    It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                    • Mantis
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 15449

                      Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      If he was physically and mentally shot then he did the right thing for the team to quit and go home.
                      But the way he went about it was all wrong.. Implying he had an illness (mental) was in hindsight a huge mistake.

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                      • lemmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 6522

                        Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

                        No problem with the discussion so far, just a general reminder that robust is great, lets keep it as clean as it has been so far

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66773

                          Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          But the way he went about it was all wrong.. Implying he had an illness (mental) was in hindsight a huge mistake.
                          Read my sentence. The word if means a lot
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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15449

                            Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Read my sentence. The word if means a lot
                            But he has admitted that he was:

                            Trott: I wasn't depressed, just physically and mentally shot - that's why I quit Ashes tour

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66773

                              Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              But he has admitted that he was:

                              Trott: I wasn't depressed, just physically and mentally shot - that's why I quit Ashes tour
                              I am not defending Trott, nor do I care about what he said and didn't say. What I said was IF he was physcially and mentally shot, then he did the right thing to quit the tour. He was no good to keep going and playing on.
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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21836

                                Re: First Test: Australia V England, Gabba

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                I am not defending Trott, nor do I care about what he said and didn't say. What I said was IF he was physcially and mentally shot, then he did the right thing to quit the tour. He was no good to keep going and playing on.
                                That's fair enough. Just as long as you understand the clear line between what he presented as his issue at the time versus what he's admitted to since (which I think, you do).

                                It's such a stupid situation now.
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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