Following our exes...................

[Bornadog]

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But Who's on first :-)

I don't believe anything I read.

[ledge]

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What a class act Andrew Hooper is. I'm impressed.

Always liked Andrew,he just didn't have the tank to keep going , he was pretty quick in bursts and had a healthy build.
I don't think we got the best out of him with our game plan , he would get on his own quite a bit but we never used him.

[Twodogs]

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Always liked Andrew,he just didn't have the tank to keep going , he was pretty quick in bursts and had a healthy build.
I don't think we got the best out of him with our game plan , he would get on his own quite a bit but we never used him.

Mate, he kicked a goal in a final that snapped us out of our lethargy. We just never looked like it until Hooper got that free kick and converted. We went from looking like we were going sleepwalk out of the finals in straight sets to not looking like losing the game. It was like the other players thought "geez, Hooper kicked a goal, anything could happen here!"

Of course it just made the pain we copped a week later all that harder to bear but...

[AndrewP6]

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Always liked Andrew,he just didn't have the tank to keep going , he was pretty quick in bursts and had a healthy build.
I don't think we got the best out of him with our game plan , he would get on his own quite a bit but we never used him.

Just logged on here.... thought I'd cracked it for a mention in a thread.

[Twodogs]

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Just logged on here.... thought I'd cracked it for a mention in a thread.

Ledge is really good with his emotions.

[comrade]

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Hooper was 8 years too early. The nuggety defensive forward is all the rage now.

[Bornadog]

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Former Bomber Stewart Crameri reveals the stress of Essendon’s supplements saga

ONE-TIME Bomber Stewart Crameri broke down as he recalled the stress of living through the club’s supplements saga.

Crameri, 29, was among 34 Essendon players banned for 12 months in the fallout of the club’s ill-fated program.
The forward left the Bombers following the 2013 season to join the Western Bulldogs before landing at Geelong this year, where he has played the past two matches.

Speaking on Fox Footy’s On The Mark, Crameri told of the effects the saga had placed not only on himself and Essendon officials but those connected to the club.

“It’s okay that it’s happened to me, it’s just the family and friends and all of the pressure that I’ve put on them,” Crameri said.
“It’s all of the pressure that gets put on all of the people at the club. It was just really hard to see all of these great people going through this stuff. They were getting slagged through the media. They were my friends.

“For someone to be guilty of something when they’re innocent, it’s just really hard to take. If you’re guilty, then that’s fair enough. But when you didn’t intentionally do anything wrong, I think that’s the hardest part to swallow.”



Stewart Crameri in his final season at the Bombers.Crameri also spoke of the heartache of not being able to get on the field during 2016, when Luke Beveridge’s side went all the way to an AFL premiership.

“I got married on the Friday, it was a great day obviously, and then the next day I watched the Grand Final with all my friends and family,’ Crameri recalled.

“About halfway through the last quarter I realised the boys were actually going to do it and it was quite hard to watch because I felt I should have been there, I should have been playing but I wasn’t.

“I wasn’t angry as such, I was so happy for them but so sad that I couldn’t be a part of it.

“I had to remove myself from my family ... I went out to the front and I sat there for five minutes. I said ‘I’ll give myself five minutes to reflect on it, be upset, whatever you have to be’ just to make sure I come back and not be upset about it and when I see the guys I’m really happy for them.



“Watching that last bit was quite tough but there’s many a story of people missing out on Grand Finals, it is hard but that’s just part of the game.”

Crameri said he had moved on in life and was now happy, but was critical of sports scientist Stephen Dank.
“I can only speak for myself ... but I think he was clumsy with some of his dealings with us. I’m not sure what was going through his head, but a lot of people have been affected by it,” Crameri said.

“We were hopeful that he would come out and actually help us out and say what he did and actually fix the issue that he created.

“From that point of view, we were just waiting and waiting and he never came out and said anything. It was disappointing to see.
“We put faith and trust into Dank and he led us down the wrong path, obviously.”

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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I feel for Stew. I really do. It's hard to know if we would have won the flag if he was playing. We won it the way we did and any changing variable might have changed that. But he's moved on and it's good to see him getting a game at Geelong. I was surprised we delisted him though. I thought he could have provided a role for us.

[LostDoggy]

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Good luck to Stewie. He's was good for us the first couple of years. He's had a lot thrown at him and he's still fighting on, I hope he makes a go of it at Geelong.

[bulldogtragic]

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He had a guaranteed slap on the wrist offer to continue his career without interruption at the dogs. He refused the offer. That part of the story never seems to make any stories. He had the power to not miss the season and this play in a GF. He chose to roll the dice and lost. Good luck to him, but I wished he just took that bloody slap on the wrist. He'd be at the dogs and probably 3 time leading goal kicker. But he didn't.

[The Adelaide Connection]

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He had a guaranteed slap on the wrist offer to continue his career without interruption at the dogs. He refused the offer. That part of the story never seems to make any stories. He had the power to not miss the season and this play in a GF. He chose to roll the dice and lost. Good luck to him, but I wished he just took that bloody slap on the wrist. He'd be at the dogs and probably 3 time leading goal kicker. But he didn't.

I guess the thing is it was a “sell your soul” kind of moment. That slap on the wrist came with the caveat of admitting you’d done the wrong thing and were a cheat and also putting all of your mates in it. The players maintain they aren’t cheats (just naive, trusting, and let down by the club, etc.) so I guess that’s why he chose to fight it.

[Twodogs]

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I guess the thing is it was a “sell your soul” kind of moment. That slap on the wrist came with the caveat of admitting you’d done the wrong thing and were a cheat and also putting all of your mates in it. The players maintain they aren’t cheats (just naive, trusting, and let down by the club, etc.) so I guess that’s why he chose to fight it.

I'd have done the same thing I think. No way would I be admitting to something I didn't feel I was guilty of. Maybe you pay a price for that in the short term but in the long run you will be proven right.

[Topdog]

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I'd have done the same thing I think. No way would I be admitting to something I didn't feel I was guilty of. Maybe you pay a price for that in the short term but in the long run you will be proven right.

except he hasn't been proven right. I'm still staggered they thought they'd get off for "not knowing what was injected into them"

[bulldogtragic]

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except he hasn't been proven right. I'm still staggered they thought they'd get off for "not knowing what was injected into them"

Yep. What was he paying Gordon Legal to do for him? I'm assuming an off season small suspension and no loss of games. Gordon Legal got that (or better) for him. Then he refuses to sign, which is his right, but the story of him leaving Essendon and arriving at Geelong (missing premierships etc) involves the above chapter. Regrettable for him and especially the club who pumped a golden pick to get him and also a lot of salary cap - and got nothing back when we parted. One signature changes this story, but not.

[Bornadog]

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except he hasn't been proven right. I'm still staggered they thought they'd get off for "not knowing what was injected into them"

Following on from Fitzpatrick's interview on open Mike, they should have got 10 plus years ban, plus Essendon should have lost their license to operate in the AFL. Lance Armstrong got a Life time ban