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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45026

    Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

    Dixon and Martin have been suspended by Gold Coast for drinking the night before their game.
    The club had made it clear to the playing group that there was a ban of drinking for 3 games and Dixon and Martin ignored it.

    Is this a good stance by the club?

    From my point of view, it's been touted that Dixon will receive a massive contract offer from the Lions and I would have thought most players would do what they could to make sure they actually get that offer.

    Gold Coast have just one win so far this year and it appears a few of the players aren't focused on improving that record,
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  • Maddog37
    WOOF Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3132

    #2
    Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

    Club culture is more important than individual player contracts at the end of the day.

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 22011

      #3
      Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

      Read Sam Lane's article on the matter. Essentially the players owned up to it (2 glasses each) with Dixon suggesting he drinks wine the night before games to get to sleep and that the practise has helped him play better football.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #4
        Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

        Get them out of the place and into a good environment I say. If that needs to be at our club then we will just need to take that bullet for the greater good.
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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45026

          #5
          Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

          So hard done by or did the club need to make a stand?
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          • azabob
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 15413

            #6
            Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            So hard done by or did the club need to make a stand?
            Not hard done by at all. Clearly there are dicipline issues at the club and it appears it is at least a third of the playing list.

            Not sure what else the club need to do for the player's to get the message? Perhaps sack one of them?

            Didnt Dixon have a prior record?
            More of an In Bruges guy?

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            • azabob
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 15413

              #7
              Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

              What is more annoying is the Afl handed them a lot of top end talent and now they are going to get another top end draft pick.
              More of an In Bruges guy?

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              • Hotdog60
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2009
                • 5963

                #8
                Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

                It was a one match ban for breaking the rules wasn't it? If it was agreed by the playing group then they should tow the line.
                I think it's fair enough, it was only for three games. Surely they could keep off the grog that long.
                You have to buy in to the team ethos other wise they would all do their own thing.
                Don't piss off old people
                The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 45026

                  #9
                  Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  Not hard done by at all. Clearly there are dicipline issues at the club and it appears it is at least a third of the playing list.

                  Not sure what else the club need to do for the player's to get the message? Perhaps sack one of them?

                  Didnt Dixon have a prior record?
                  Not that I can recall. It must be a constant battle to get close to all the players on the list focused on the right things.

                  I mentioned on the Players Sponsors night thread what a pleasure it was to meet some of our younger players. I'm sure somewhere down the track we will face some challenges though.
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                  • Hotdog60
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5963

                    #10
                    Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

                    Have we got to that generation that lacks discipline and think they know best. Do they get their noses out of joint when they get told.
                    Who would want to be a coach.
                    Don't piss off old people
                    The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15413

                      #11
                      Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Not that I can recall. It must be a constant battle to get close to all the players on the list focused on the right things.

                      I mentioned on the Players Sponsors night thread what a pleasure it was to meet some of our younger players. I'm sure somewhere down the track we will face some challenges though.
                      Back in early May when the last drinking ban occurred Dixon was let off as he was "drinking" with family.


                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27664

                        #12
                        Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        Dixon and Martin have been suspended by Gold Coast for drinking the night before their game.
                        The club had made it clear to the playing group that there was a ban of drinking for 3 games and Dixon and Martin ignored it.

                        Is this a good stance by the club?

                        From my point of view, it's been touted that Dixon will receive a massive contract offer from the Lions and I would have thought most players would do what they could to make sure they actually get that offer.

                        Gold Coast have just one win so far this year and it appears a few of the players aren't focused on improving that record,
                        I think the three week dry period was a target set by either the playing group or the leadership group. So if the players set the limit and these boys broke it then a week sounds about right.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14474

                          #13
                          Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

                          If Dixon says its a ritual he does to sleep why wouldn't he have mentioned it before ?
                          Seriously I don't know the problem , a glass of red wine a day is supposed to be very good for you.
                          Alcohol can actually be good for you in some ways, two beers or a wine ? You think it affects the way you play a day later ?
                          I think no alcohol is over the top as long as you don't have a reading on the day you can't be drinking where it affects you badly in anyway .
                          Bring back the biff

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 67308

                            #14
                            Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

                            Originally posted by ledge
                            If Dixon says its a ritual he does to sleep why wouldn't he have mentioned it before ?
                            Seriously I don't know the problem , a glass of red wine a day is supposed to be very good for you.
                            Alcohol can actually be good for you in some ways, two beers or a wine ? You think it affects the way you play a day later ?
                            I think no alcohol is over the top as long as you don't have a reading on the day you can't be drinking where it affects you badly in anyway .
                            Yeah nothing wrong with one glass

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                            • lemmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6551

                              #15
                              Re: Charlie Dixon and Jack Martin

                              Surely the problem isn't that they had a glass or two of wine, it's that this was an explicit rule set by the playing group after a string of issues recently? After already seeing a number of guys suspended less than a month ago and all the media attention that came of it, you'd have to be absolutely stupid to have a sniff of alcohol, even if it 'helps you sleep'. I'm no teetotaller but this is about respect for the rules laid down, respect for your club culture and respect for those team-mates that are abiding and wouldn't mind winning a game of footy. I think they've gotten away very lightly here.

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