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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27664

    Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    Just to expand a bit on the teams that need to accumulate points for academy players Jay Clark has tweeted the following

    Jay Clark ‏@ClarkyHeraldSun 50m50 minutes ago

    GWS pick 8 (1551 points)
    Ess pick 23 (815) & pick 25 (756) = 1571

    GWS better off with 23 & 25 to use on academy players.
    Geez. I wonder where he read that idea first...
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27664

      Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

      With GWS sizing up Stevie J I bet Geelong are spewing that they couldn't get that last minute deal for him that GWS proposed last year. I read and heard (newspaper and radio) that GWS offered two of their single digit picks for him (6 and 8?) but they couldn't contact him in time to do the deal.

      I find it hard to believe they would have offered pick 6 or 8 let alone both for a guy who's played as many games as Steve Johnson.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • Remi Moses
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 14785

        Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

        That was pretty much confirmed by Matthews a while ago.
        My goodness they are desperate for the " star factor"

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45026

          Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          Geez. I wonder where he read that idea first...
          All clubs have had a lot of time to work out their approach and would be all over this. I wonder if the penny has just dropped for a few of the journos now the the trade period has started. By the end of the trade period there should be some brilliant articles to read on how some clubs have worked the new options to their advantage.
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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            I could see GWS wanting pick 18 and and 25 for pick 8 as they would then have 140 more points to cover their academy players.
            If that happened Essendon have 8 and we 11. Is Talia worth that upgrade of 3 picks and a third rounder?
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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 45026

              Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

              The Journo's now have their head around the draft index value and how it can be manipulated. Great example

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 45026

                Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                Freo still looking at getting involved in a trade for McCartney from GWS.
                They have pick 22 (Bennell deal) this year and obviously a future 1st round pick from next year they could trade but now appear to be open to trade a player.

                If we were to get involved and potentially part with pick 11 in some deal for their pick 22 and a player the following might have some have appeal for us:
                Michael Apeness - Ruckman who can also play forward might appeal. The knock on him is that he missed the year with a knee injury
                Hayden Crozier - He's been with Freo for 4 seasons and has only played 35 games. Great skills but is more of a forward than genuine mid.
                Matt Taberner - 198cm forward who can go into the ruck. Finished the season off below expectations.

                Is there any interest in these guys or someone else from Freo?
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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                  I'd be surprised if Crowley didn't get a gig at some club.
                  A team like Melbourne or Brisbane would be foolish not to look at him.

                  Some suggestion Essendon are interested in Honeychurch.
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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 45026

                    Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                    Some suggestions Essendon were interested in Honeychurch.
                    Would we want to part with him and if so what sort of player or pick could be command?
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                    • Ghost Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 9404

                      Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Would we want to part with him and if so what sort of player or pick could be command?
                      All I know is we have a surplus of his 'type'. Essendon is not an ideal club to go to in my opinion - something is wrong with their culture. I'd be disappointed to lose him to Essendon - unless it was a great deal for us.
                      I've not seen enough of him play, being abroad, but the regular posters here who seem to have a lot of industry knowledge rate him.
                      How many players do we have to trade?

                      In his 2013 player profile it says 'Nat Fyfe' - like skills. NAB rising star award, which I forgot about.
                      What's his rate of improvement?
                      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                      • Hotdog60
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 5963

                        Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        Would we want to part with him and if so what sort of player or pick could be command?
                        That Daniher kid could be handy at CHF so just a straight swap seems fair with Esserdone.
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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          Freo still looking at getting involved in a trade for McCartney from GWS.
                          They have pick 22 (Bennell deal) this year and obviously a future 1st round pick from next year they could trade but now appear to be open to trade a player.

                          If we were to get involved and potentially part with pick 11 in some deal for their pick 22 and a player the following might have some have appeal for us:
                          Michael Apeness - Ruckman who can also play forward might appeal. The knock on him is that he missed the year with a knee injury
                          Hayden Crozier - He's been with Freo for 4 seasons and has only played 35 games. Great skills but is more of a forward than genuine mid.
                          Matt Taberner - 198cm forward who can go into the ruck. Finished the season off below expectations.

                          Is there any interest in these guys or someone else from Freo?
                          I wonder if we could merge a few of your ideas for us:

                          Apeness and 22 for 11.
                          Target St Kilda pick 24. Talia, Hrovat etc. By taking the deal with GWS away from Essendon, St Kilda can ark up about getting 25 returned in Carlisle trade.
                          22 & 24 to GWS for pick 8.


                          Dogs: Apeness and pick 8 for pick 11 and Talia/Hrovat (still have pick 32)
                          Freo: Pick 11 to get McCarthy
                          Saints: Hrovat/Talia, block Essendon from the GWS trade of 23 & 25. If they got 25, it'd be effectively JC & these for guys for pick 5. Talia could be involved between Saints & Essendon also.
                          GWS: Get 22 & 24, better points than 23 & 25 from Essendon. Get pick 11 from us thru Freo and next year 1st rounder for McCarthy.
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                          • chef
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14699

                            Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            Freo still looking at getting involved in a trade for McCartney from GWS.
                            They have pick 22 (Bennell deal) this year and obviously a future 1st round pick from next year they could trade but now appear to be open to trade a player.

                            If we were to get involved and potentially part with pick 11 in some deal for their pick 22 and a player the following might have some have appeal for us:
                            Michael Apeness - Ruckman who can also play forward might appeal. The knock on him is that he missed the year with a knee injury
                            Hayden Crozier - He's been with Freo for 4 seasons and has only played 35 games. Great skills but is more of a forward than genuine mid.
                            Matt Taberner - 198cm forward who can go into the ruck. Finished the season off below expectations.

                            Is there any interest in these guys or someone else from Freo?
                            Alex Pearce would be the one I'd want.
                            The curse is dead.

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                            • F'scary
                              WOOF Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 4089

                              Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                              All I know is we have a surplus of his 'type'. Essendon is not an ideal club to go to in my opinion - something is wrong with their culture. I'd be disappointed to lose him to Essendon - unless it was a great deal for us.
                              I've not seen enough of him play, being abroad, but the regular posters here who seem to have a lot of industry knowledge rate him.
                              How many players do we have to trade?

                              In his 2013 player profile it says 'Nat Fyfe' - like skills. NAB rising star award, which I forgot about.
                              What's his rate of improvement?
                              With respect to Honeychurch, he has plenty of upside to come although I don't know about the Nat Fyfe bit. We got him for pick 60, he would be worth around pick 30-40 on a trade for a pick, in my opinion.
                              Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                              • Ghost Dog
                                WOOF Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 9404

                                Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                                Originally posted by F'scary
                                With respect to Honeychurch, he has plenty of upside to come although I don't know about the Nat Fyfe bit. We got him for pick 60, he would be worth around pick 30-40 on a trade for a pick, in my opinion.
                                He won't want to leave. With Caleb Daniels a lock, he's finally not the shortest bloke on the team.
                                Reminds me of Daniel Cross a bit. Looks tough and a possible long term servant of the club.

                                Champion data had him at pick 15. He slipped to 60. Why the big drop?
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