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  • Remi Moses
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 14785

    #46
    Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

    God no to jack Watts .
    No second efforts and sometimes no 1st effort

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #47
      Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

      Originally posted by azabob
      BT obviously no offense was intended.
      I quoted Murray Hewitt. All good.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11887

        #48
        Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

        Originally posted by azabob
        BT obviously no offense was intended.
        I thought it was obviously a joke
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • FrediKanoute
          Coaching Staff
          • Aug 2007
          • 3859

          #49
          Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

          Originally posted by Greystache
          "Rather than trying to pinch wins while showing recruits the wrong way to be an AFL player, I would set the foundations of what is expected, and accept that they're going to be bottom for a couple more years. The problem is Roos' ego won't allow that. So they're just playing to minimize damage in losses, hoping to steal a few wins, and ensuring the stay stuck in the mire of bottom 6 while not improving the club at all."
          Hold on isn't that the B-Mac way?

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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            #50
            Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

            Originally posted by Sedat
            Jokes aside, he is the best tall utility you can have on your list. He is selfless and courageous, completely team-oriented, knows and understands team defence intimately, and he hardly ever gets beaten. If a Lake or Frawley go down for Hawthorn in the finals, they won't miss a beat. People can't see past the long hair and cult status - he is a very smart and capable role player.

            There won't be any gorilla key defenders available at the end of this season - Spang would be perfect insurance for our list (even as a rookie if not on the main list) while there are still question marks on Talia, Roberts and Hamling long-term, Morris short-term, and Roughy from a best-value-to-the-team perspective. Plus he comes from successful organisations - not only has he played in a flag himself, he's been part of 4 premiership squads for 3 different teams. I would draft a key defender in the ND as a priority as well.
            Something about his name, and the Jesus locks. But heck, miles ahead of Austin, Marcovic, Talia not to name a few others.
            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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            • Ghost Dog
              WOOF Member
              • May 2010
              • 9404

              #51
              Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

              Gold Coast, GWS are all going to be good fishing holes for depth players.

              Daniel Rich I've always liked and Grant + our first pick plus silverwear might be enough to do it...?

              In China they have some massive basketballer types, particularly in Northern China.
              Someone with an army background, loves tough stuff and will gladly put his head over a ball for a rookie wage.

              Can be our Yao Ming. Random point - my Chinese students don't believe me when I tell them Yao Ming was a genetic experiment. They got the tallest sportswoman and male they could find and hooked them up. True story.

              Why not? We are importing Chinese everything else! Carlton just signed on a US basketballer by the way, to add to that guy at the Saints.
              You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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              • jazzadogs
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Oct 2008
                • 5721

                #52
                Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                Gold Coast, GWS are all going to be good fishing holes for depth players.
                I'd like to cast a good eye over Geelongs list. We have a bit of history with dealings and lots of finals experience.

                Daniel Rich I've always liked and Grant + our first pick plus silverwear might be enough to do it...?
                Massive overs for Rich, IMO. He has a booming kick which I would love to have in our side, but not as consistent as we would like. A player or pick (our second rounder, 30 something?) would be it for me.

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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  #53
                  Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                  Originally posted by jazzadogs
                  Massive overs for Rich, IMO. He has a booming kick which I would love to have in our side, but not as consistent as we would like. A player or pick (our second rounder, 30 something?) would be it for me.
                  You are right.
                  You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                  • F'scary
                    WOOF Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 4089

                    #54
                    Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                    I wouldn't pour cold water on recruiting Jack Watts as a CHF. He might suit our style with his mobility. The big question mark on him as everyone knows is his on-field endeavour, basically, he has a track record of going missing regularly. New environment, new coach, new team with a very different playing style - could be worth a punt. Would Melbourne go for our first round pick (approx 11) +, say, Hrovat for Watts and their 2nd round pick (approx pick 28)? Or is this way overs for the 25 yo former number 1 draft pick who has played 115 games since 2009 (7 seasons), measures 196cm and 88kg and this year averaged 16 disposals, 5 marks and 0.5 goals in 20 games?
                    Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                    • Bulldog Joe
                      Premiership Moderator
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5615

                      #55
                      Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                      Originally posted by F'scary
                      I wouldn't pour cold water on recruiting Jack Watts as a CHF. He might suit our style with his mobility. The big question mark on him as everyone knows is his on-field endeavour, basically, he has a track record of going missing regularly. New environment, new coach, new team with a very different playing style - could be worth a punt. Would Melbourne go for our first round pick (approx 11) +, say, Hrovat for Watts and their 2nd round pick (approx pick 28)? Or is this way overs for the 25 yo former number 1 draft pick who has played 115 games since 2009 (7 seasons), measures 196cm and 88kg and this year averaged 16 disposals, 5 marks and 0.5 goals in 20 games?
                      I would suggest that is overs for Watts, who could not even maintain a spot at Melbourne.
                      Actually think he could be something to work with, but would be looking at a player swap.

                      He no longer warrants a first round pick as damaged goods in need of considerable reprogramming.
                      Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11439

                        #56
                        Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                        Jack Watts is simply not an ultra-competitive animal. He accepts his fate on the field far too easily, whether it be in a marking contest or on a ground ball get. I can't see past this major flaw in his game - shame as he is genuinely an elite field kick.
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • F'scary
                          WOOF Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 4089

                          #57
                          Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                          Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                          I would suggest that is overs for Watts, who could not even maintain a spot at Melbourne.
                          Actually think he could be something to work with, but would be looking at a player swap.

                          He no longer warrants a first round pick as damaged goods in need of considerable reprogramming.
                          Fair enough.
                          Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                          • F'scary
                            WOOF Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 4089

                            #58
                            Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                            Originally posted by Sedat
                            Jack Watts is simply not an ultra-competitive animal. He accepts his fate on the field far too easily, whether it be in a marking contest or on a ground ball get. I can't see past this major flaw in his game - shame as he is genuinely an elite field kick.
                            Lack of endeavour is a big problem - often it seems like a temperament issue as players with this defect often find it hard to change it. Liam Jones was a bit the same.
                            Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                            • Bulldog4life
                              WOOF Member
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 9607

                              #59
                              Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                              Originally posted by Sedat
                              Jack Watts is simply not an ultra-competitive animal. He accepts his fate on the field far too easily, whether it be in a marking contest or on a ground ball get. I can't see past this major flaw in his game - shame as he is genuinely an elite field kick.
                              Exactly. It is a big no from me.

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                              • Dancin' Douggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 2876

                                #60
                                Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                                My initial thought on Watts is Hell NO!!!

                                Then I'm thinking.......what if.............?

                                A. we get him for peanuts so its no great loss if he flops

                                B. He finally blossoms in a healthy environment with an inspirational coach, who has pretty much improved every single player on our list in one year.
                                (Some exceptions.......such as Hrovat and Talia I know.but still an incredible achievement)

                                C. We mange to turn him into the A grader he was supposed to be, and get him playing like a No 1 pick. How SWEEEEEET would that be. Hopefully a BIG nail in the coffin for the Paul Roos style of joyless negative football which I can't stand.

                                So I'm thinking..maybe it's worth a punt.

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