Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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I really hope we are exploring opportunities to move higher up the 1st round draft order. I think securing another top line talent in this draft should be a priority so as to ensure we have a good number of A grade talent coming into their prime around the same time as each other.

Oh man I totally agree. That's why I keep banging on about the Carlisle/St. Kilda deal.

Pick 5 is too high for Carlisle. Pick 11 might be about right. Bombers are into Talia.

Dogs give Bombers 11 and Talia. and we on trade Carlisle with picks or whatever to the saints.

I would love to take pick 5 to the draft.

[Bornadog]

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I'm absolutely petrified of going into 2016 with our current key defensive stocks.

I can't see us getting anyone this trade, but then again who knows what will happen.

[bulldogtragic]

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Wasn't Dangerfield pick 11? (Massive contract) And Jarrad Grant pick 5? (No contract)

Ironic, if not awful, if we fought to get the higher pick and then the same happened at the draft. I'd shop pick 5 for a double deal of a good mid and good defender.

[GVGjr]

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I don't think Lobbe is going anywhere. He signed what a big 4 year deal late last year, is a vice captain at the club and Port said under no circumstances would they trade him and he wants to stay. Everything they have done suggests they want to keep him. We need to look elsewhere or bide our time.

Terry Wallace believes Lobbe faces a reduced role unless some of the Essendon players they have get suspended

Former Bulldogs and Richmond coach Terry Wallace, who is among the most respected list analysts in the game, feared the recruitment of Dixon would mean Lobbe’s role would be reduced to an insurance policy.

It is believed a big part of hanging on to the former No. 1 ruckman, who was in fine form during coach Ken Hinkley’s first year at the club in 2014, is because of the ongoing WADA investigation into Essendon, which threatens to suspend Port’s former Bombers Angus Monfries and Ryder.

[bulldogtragic]

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I can't see us getting anyone this trade, but then again who knows what will happen.

WCE showed this year that a good zone defence can cover a lack of tall defenders. Ironically, David King on 360 showed how Talia was our biggest weakness in our 6 man defensive set up because he would do his own thing and not play to the team structure. It might not be a big loss as he clearly couldn't be coached to play for our team and with his former team mates.

But we need to get the men's department some big support.

[GVGjr]

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WCE showed this year that a good zone defence can cover a lack of tall defenders. Ironically, David King on 360 showed how Talia was our biggest weakness in our 6 man defensive set up because he would do his own thing and not play to the team structure. It might not be a big loss as he clearly couldn't be coached to play for our team and with his former team mates.

But we need to get the men's department some big support.

Unless we are prepared to take a shot at Tomlinson or have a go at getting Plowman then a ruckman might make the most sense as it allows Roughead to stay in back line. You're spot on, we need a player who can fit into our defensive set-up the most.

[Bulldog4life]

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Unless we are prepared to take a shot at Tomlinson or have a go at getting Plowman then a ruckman might make the most sense as it allows Roughead to stay in back line. You're spot on, we need a player who can fit into our defensive set-up the most.

If Will and Tommy can step up we can still have Roughy in the backline

[Remi Moses]

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Martin has it all over Minson. Far better overhead, the best accumulator of possession ruckman in the competiton, and every bit as strong. He would be absolutely perfect for us.

Agreed. Martin has him for agility, marking and getting around the ground.
Minson's best days are past ( about 2013)

[Remi Moses]

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I think we should at least go a ruckman or a key back.

[GVGjr]

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One thing I will say is that if we miss out on a ruck, I won't lose sleep. We were only soundly beaten in two games in the ruck - v West Coast and v Brisbane.

A quality ruck is a luxury, not a necessity, as demonstrated by many premiership sides (Geelong with Blake, Sydney with Pyke, Hawthorn with Hale/McEvoy).

Minson, Campbell and Roughead (Boyd/Redpath as support roles) is still decent. The latter two should be coming into their prime whilst Minson is adequate cover if nothing else for now.

I'm absolutely petrified of going into 2016 with our current key defensive stocks.

While I tend to agree the fact that we didn't really want to play Minson gives the impression that we would really like to land a ruckman. Like you, the thought of going into the season with the key defenders we have isn't one that inspires a lot of confidence.
If we can't attract or trade for a good key defender then finding a ruckman and moving Roughead back into the back line gives us coverage. I also doubt Roughead can play as the number one ruckman for long stretches.

My preference would be to land a key defender and one that could embrace our attacking style. Failing that a ruckman might make some sense. Personally I'd play Minson and Campbell as much as I could next year but I'm not confident the coach wants to play Minson.

[Mantis]

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Personally I'd play Minson and Campbell as much as I could next year but I'm not confident the coach wants to play Minson.

Minson and Campbell or Minson or Campbell?

[GVGjr]

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Minson and Campbell or Minson or Campbell?

Minson first preference and Campbell if his form warrants it. We can't play both ruckman

[Rocket Science]

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Just on Campbell, are we satisfied by now he's probably not up to it at this level?

Or is it a textbook case of big blokes generally needing a longer apprenticeship than others as they find ways to influence games more regularly?

Approaching his 5th season and seems he's been around for a while now but Campbell's only 23 years old and has the grand sum of 26 games on his resume. Granted his sample sizes aren't monstrous - and not withstanding the team's general upward trend too - but he saw healthy bumps in both hit-out and disposal averages last season.

We've been a bit spoilt with young player contributions lately but need reliability rather than impact out of Tom. It'll be a critical year for him.

[Axe Man]

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David Astbury would be a great fit for us as a key defender (195cm 24 years old). Can't get a game in front of Rance and Chaplain at Richmond but is highly rated. Brisbane are apparently into him but Richmond's asking price is high for a bloke who has only played 41 games in 6 years.

Richmond has indicated to the Lions it will consider trading key defender David Astbury to the Gabba, but only for (a) pick No.21 on its own; or (b) pick No.17, with the Tigers to pass No.31 back to the Lions.

Any way we could get involved here?

[Mantis]

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Minson first preference and Campbell if his form warrants it. We can't play both ruckman

I just don't see the point of playing Minson.. He clearly isn't suited to our style of play and I can't see this improving magically over this pre-season.

Obviously a bit to play out with how we use Roughead, but it really is time for Campbell to step-up.