2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

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  • divvydan
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1502

    #91
    Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

    If GC are interested in Wallis, I'd expect them to do a trade rather than FA. If they bring Wallis in through FA, that might reduce their return on Lynch (assuming they don't match).

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27638

      #92
      Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

      Originally posted by divvydan
      If GC are interested in Wallis, I'd expect them to do a trade rather than FA. If they bring Wallis in through FA, that might reduce their return on Lynch (assuming they don't match).
      You're right. They will get better compo for Lynch than we will for Wallis but the AFL views a FA as a FA. It's in their interest to trade for Wallis.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • ratsmac
        Coaching Staff
        • May 2009
        • 3974

        #93
        Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

        Isn't May a FA also? If so they would lose 2 players to FA so if Wallis walks to GC it would cancel out only 1 FA compo... I think.

        Edit: just checked May isn't a FA so disregard any twaddle that I just wrote.
        They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
        Brian Fantana.

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        • divvydan
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 1502

          #94
          Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

          May is contracted until the end of next year at which point he would be a FA.

          Just for clarification, if GC brought Wallis in on FA and Lynch left on FA, it wouldn't remove all compensation for Lynch leaving but it would likely reduce the compensation from a first round pick to perhaps a mid first round pick or even an end of first round pick. How reduced the compensation would be would depend on the difference between their respective salaries and length of contract.

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          • Happy Days
            Hall of Fame
            • May 2008
            • 10040

            #95
            Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

            Originally posted by divvydan
            May is contracted until the end of next year at which point he would be a FA.

            Just for clarification, if GC brought Wallis in on FA and Lynch left on FA, it wouldn't remove all compensation for Lynch leaving but it would likely reduce the compensation from a first round pick to perhaps a mid first round pick or even an end of first round pick. How reduced the compensation would be would depend on the difference between their respective salaries and length of contract.
            So we could potentially move up one spot inside the top 5 if we let Wallis walk?

            Sounds like some 4D chess.
            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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            • Rocket Science
              Coaching Staff
              • Oct 2007
              • 4847

              #96
              Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

              On May and his FA status at the end of 2019; there's been discussion that the last thing GC want is their Lynch situation to be repeated with May this time next year so they might seek a commitment from him now to allay those fears.

              If he can't give them one, well...
              BORDERLINE FLYING

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 10925

                #97
                Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                Originally posted by divvydan
                May is contracted until the end of next year at which point he would be a FA.

                Just for clarification, if GC brought Wallis in on FA and Lynch left on FA, it wouldn't remove all compensation for Lynch leaving but it would likely reduce the compensation from a first round pick to perhaps a mid first round pick or even an end of first round pick. How reduced the compensation would be would depend on the difference between their respective salaries and length of contract.
                I've reiterated this a few times on here - it's age and dollars that are important for free agency compensation, contract length is of very minor importance.

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14822

                  #98
                  Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  I've reiterated this a few times on here - it's age and dollars that are important for free agency compensation, contract length is of very minor importance.
                  Yep read a while back it's the first two years of the contract are taken into consideration, the rest are only used if the decision is line-ball.
                  Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                  • Bullies
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 1802

                    #99
                    Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                    Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                    I have asked Bullies where he read this rumour and he didn't reply so I assume he din't read it or heard it anywhere except on WOOF. Are you just repeating what you read on WOOF BT?
                    No wasn't in the paper. All I said was if a deal can be done to go home he will otherwise he will see out the contract.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 65683

                      Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                      Anyone interested in Dayne Beams, and what would it take?
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Doc26
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3087

                        Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Anyone interested in Dayne Beams, and what would it take?
                        Yes. Great user of the ball, smart footballer and an identified leader. Unfortunately he will be 29 by start of next year so how much it would cost would be a factor.

                        He's of similar age to Bryce Gibbs who Adelaide gave up picks 10 and 16 for last season. Beams would sit in a similar category.

                        Adelaide gaining Gibbs probably fits their window more than it does our own but if we could manufacture it for a low second round pick (unlikely and which we don't currently have) then I'd be interested.

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                        • EasternWest
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 9938

                          Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Anyone interested in Dayne Beams, and what would it take?
                          No, but I really rate him.
                          "It's over. It's all over."

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                          • Hotdog60
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 5792

                            Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                            The most games he's played for the lions was in 2017.
                            Has trouble staying on the park. With the age factor I'm a no.
                            Also he has something that's a bit black and white about him that doesn't sit well.
                            Don't piss off old people
                            The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 65683

                              Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                              St Kilda has an eye on Dan Menzel and looking at a possible two-year offer
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • Bullies
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 1802

                                Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

                                WC have offered Roughy a contract which apparently is very generous and we won't match. Probably a good move for Roughy.

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