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  • Greystache
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Dec 2009
    • 9775

    #61
    Re: The Chad Thread

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    That’s a very strange reckoning. Contracting into same money to turn his back on this contract, which is his big one. Reckons? Or has sources confirming? And Hawthorn have to beat our pick 6 offer to Port. That reckon defies a bit of logic.
    Yeah not sure I'd take anything Jay Clarke says too seriously. He seems like a Bigfooty poster with a media accreditation.
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    • Bulldog Joe
      Premiership Moderator
      • Jul 2009
      • 5615

      #62
      Re: The Chad Thread

      Originally posted by FrediKanoute
      Strange decision to join he Hawks. Yes top 4 in 2018, but seriously their list is a mess and they will crash over the next years to rebuild. Topping up with players like Wingard will see them avoid a complete bottom out, but they are not going to win a flag in the next 5 years. Why as a player would you waste your time?
      I think we need to understand that players are not really equipped for list analysis.

      If Clark sells the dream, he won't care what anyone thinks.
      We need to convince him that we can provide the success.
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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #63
        Re: The Chad Thread

        Originally posted by Greystache
        Yeah not sure I'd take anything Jay Clarke says too seriously. He seems like a Bigfooty poster with a media accreditation.
        He's just missing mentioned Schoenmakers as the fair trade...
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • divvydan
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 1502

          #64
          Re: The Chad Thread

          If Wingard wants to be a permanent midfielder then Hawthorn makes sense as their midfield depth is close to non-existant.

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14696

            #65
            Re: The Chad Thread

            Clarkson has a lot of pull
            The curse is dead.

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11887

              #66
              Re: The Chad Thread

              Big club, play big matches on the MCG, get set with better chances for media career post footy if he wants, better support for indigenous players, lots of reasons he could pick.
              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 67291

                #67
                Re: The Chad Thread

                Originally posted by Greystache
                Yeah not sure I'd take anything Jay Clarke says too seriously. He seems like a Bigfooty poster with a media accreditation.
                He said Wallis was going to Brisbane - gets a lot wrong
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                • Throughandthrough
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 3204

                  #68
                  Re: The Chad Thread

                  Jay Clarke is a flog

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                  • azabob
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15406

                    #69
                    Re: The Chad Thread

                    Originally posted by Throughandthrough
                    Jay Clarke is a flog
                    What are you hearing? Is he staying? Going?
                    More of an In Bruges guy?

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #70
                      Re: The Chad Thread

                      Originally posted by azabob
                      What are you hearing? Is he staying? Going?
                      Jay Clarke to Breitbart Sport on a three year deal, for small McCafe coffee.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21991

                        #71
                        Re: The Chad Thread

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Jay Clarke to Breitbart Sport on a three year deal, for small McCafe coffee.
                        They’re overpaying with that offer, desperados.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 45008

                          #72
                          Re: The Chad Thread

                          If Wingard is our focus and we are confident he wants to come to us then given we are trading pick 6 we should ask for their pick 45 as a sweetener in the deal. An extra pick could be handy for us with Khamis

                          If Port weren't keen to add that to the trade then perhaps we could look at a deal with the Crows swapping our pick 6 for their pick 9 and something else.

                          Port still get a top 10 pick for Wingard from us but they are now picking behind their arch enemy in a strong SA draft. I think Port would comfortably hand us their pick 45 in a deal for Wingard
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                          • Sedat
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 11436

                            #73
                            Re: The Chad Thread

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            If Wingard is our focus and we are confident he wants to come to us then given we are trading pick 6 we should ask for their pick 45 as a sweetener in the deal. An extra pick could be handy for us with Khamis
                            Agree 100%. Port will get pick 6 off us and another good pick for Polec - they may not even want to use pick 45 if they can snag 4 picks in the top 30.
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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #74
                              Re: The Chad Thread

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              If Wingard is our focus and we are confident he wants to come to us then given we are trading pick 6 we should ask for their pick 45 as a sweetener in the deal. An extra pick could be handy for us with Khamis

                              If Port weren't keen to add that to the trade then perhaps we could look at a deal with the Crows swapping our pick 6 for their pick 9 and something else.

                              Port still get a top 10 pick for Wingard from us but they are now picking behind their arch enemy in a strong SA draft. I think Port would comfortably hand us their pick 45 in a deal for Wingard
                              Completely agree. After shuffling that's pick 50 or so. Even if we hand back 66 if push came to shove. That's about 200 extra points.

                              I've been playing with a complex trade, but haven't finished the fine details but I've got this far:

                              Port get pick 10 for Polac
                              Dogs trade Port pick 6 for pick 10

                              Port take Rozee & Hately at the draft
                              Dogs use pick 10 before West

                              Dogs hand over 2019 1st rounder
                              Dogs swap Port 3rd for 4th rounder this year (45 for 60, about 200 extra points)
                              Port swap Dogs 3rd for 4th rounder next year (Port stocking up next year, see below)

                              Wash up:

                              Port: Upgrade pick 10 into pick 6 to get a gun local kid, also take another first rounder into next year (maybe 8-12), salary cap free for Lycett, equal later swaps over both years - Wingard
                              Dogs: Wingard - Downgrade pick 6 down to pick 10, for West or before ideally, give 2019 first rounder, equal later swaps over both years

                              Port would have picks 6, 9, 21, 27 & 46 plus Lycett. So bringing in 6 players at least. A swap of 45 to 60 works for us, and works for them in that they might not use 46. So they get an extra good third rounder next year, a good balance for them having two first rounders, a second rounder, and two third rounders.

                              Taking out reciprocal later swaps, we give them an upgrade of pick 10 into pick 6 this year for a gun SA kid, plus likely pick 8-12 next year. So a first rounder next year plus a significant first round upgrade into the top 10 this year.

                              Still working on it. Happy for feedback.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • Happy Days
                                Hall of Fame
                                • May 2008
                                • 10204

                                #75
                                Re: The Chad Thread

                                To be fair to Clark, if he's just offering his opinion, then given the ability of the respective clubs to attract players and make big trades actually happen, he's entitled to think that Hawthorn would beat us out.

                                But he's still a dickhead.
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