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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11866

    Re: Proactive Poaching

    It's hard to comment without any real medical knowledge but having him running and playing while still not recovered certainly sounds bad. Could there be any benefit to avoiding surgery and having it heal naturally for his long term welfare?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11212

      Re: Proactive Poaching

      Crows should have taken a conservative approach to his recovery and made sure he ticked all the boxes in his rehab.
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • Rocket Science
        Coaching Staff
        • Oct 2007
        • 4854

        Re: Proactive Poaching

        Ack. So whatever the price, assuming no setbacks it's not unrealistic to suggest we won't see Keath at anything approaching top speed til the mid-way point of the 2020 season?

        Missing more than half a pre-season isn't exactly a great recipe for kicking on.
        BORDERLINE FLYING

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66580

          Re: Proactive Poaching

          Originally posted by Sedat
          Crows should have taken a conservative approach to his recovery and made sure he ticked all the boxes in his rehab.
          Works with us
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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21803

            Re: Proactive Poaching

            Well they actually said their approach was going to be conservative, we've opted for the alternative.

            It's hard to reconcile the two approaches, to be honest.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • macca
              Coaching Staff
              • Sep 2007
              • 2352

              Re: Proactive Poaching

              Originally posted by Rocket Science
              Ack. So whatever the price, assuming no setbacks it's not unrealistic to suggest we won't see Keath at anything approaching top speed til the mid-way point of the 2020 season?

              Missing more than half a pre-season isn't exactly a great recipe for kicking on.
              If he comes into play midway next season does that mean effectively his cost us 300k before a game has played if we have an offer of 600k pa ? Why don’t we wait next year when his out of contract and then he walks ?
              He turns 28 next year , how long is this contract we supposedly offered ..?

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              • dog town
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2007
                • 1914

                Re: Proactive Poaching

                If the injury heals before the season starts then he will be fine. These guys are professionals and a couple of months lost won’t necessarily derail a season. It’s not ideal but it shouldn’t change the trade. I would favour surgery now.

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                • The Pie Man
                  Coaching Staff
                  • May 2008
                  • 3498

                  Re: Proactive Poaching

                  Originally posted by dog town
                  If the injury heals before the season starts then he will be fine. These guys are professionals and a couple of months lost won’t necessarily derail a season. It’s not ideal but it shouldn’t change the trade. I would favour surgery now.
                  Got Tom Boyd’s warning of the impact a compromised pre-season has on your season ringing in my ears.

                  Though Bailey Smith went alright this year.

                  Think we can agree it’s not ideal - though maybe a third rounder comes into play for Alex
                  Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                  • The Pie Man
                    Coaching Staff
                    • May 2008
                    • 3498

                    Re: Proactive Poaching

                    Originally posted by kruder
                    We just cant afford to add another depth player. If the player isn't clearly best 22 i wouldn't be having a crack at them.
                    We presumably will give Cavarra time this season if he stays fit - Butler would be ahead of him.

                    Quick pressure forward is a big hole in our list
                    Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14915

                      Re: Proactive Poaching

                      Interesting the article is so adamant about the Bulldogs taking pick 13 to the draft.

                      We really do have a realistic chance now of getting Keath, Bruce, and keeping pick 13.
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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        Re: Proactive Poaching

                        Tom Papley's manager told Trade Radio that Tom has an open mind to playing with a Victorian club other than Carlton.

                        Is that an open invitation for Vic clubs to go chase him?
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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27654

                          Re: Proactive Poaching

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Tom Papley's manager told Trade Radio that Tom has an open mind to playing with a Victorian club other than Carlton.

                          Is that an open invitation for Vic clubs to go chase him?
                          I think it's more likely that Papley's manager has overeached and is bringing his client'[s expectations back into the realm of what is actually possible, a early first rounder*? Nup, that was never going to happen and said more about the posturing of Trade Week than anything else.

                          And to quote Ernest Tyldesley "I will be taking my tea break at quarter to four like a gentleman and when you chaps have come to your senses I will be waiting for you then."




                          *you watch now that I have placed my cahoonas over the open fire a club will come up with 3 early draft picks and a million dollar salary!
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • Happy Days
                            Hall of Fame
                            • May 2008
                            • 10133

                            Re: Proactive Poaching

                            13 and McLean for Papley and 25 who says no?
                            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66580

                              Re: Proactive Poaching

                              Originally posted by Happy Days
                              13 and McLean for Papley and 25 who says no?
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                              • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8939

                                Re: Proactive Poaching

                                Originally posted by Happy Days
                                13 and McLean for Papley and 25 who says no?
                                That's a hard no from me.
                                I still think we've not seen Mclean's ceiling yet. And I'm not convinced Papley is THAT good. If Carlton want to blow a top 10 1st rounder on him, good luck to them.

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