St Kilda

[Grantysghost]

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This is pretty funny. Phillipou does look like a lazy bust at the moment.

After a six-point loss to Hawthorn on Saturday that left the Saints only percentage above the bottom four, Ned Costello ? a director at Sports Minded, which looks after Phillipou ? took to X the following day.
?@davidking34 tell me who in the forward line has improved under Lyon? (Mitch) Owens, (Max) King, phillipou have gotten considerably worse under Lyon. When they came in young and just played they looked exciting. He is destroying them,? Costello posted on early Sunday afternoon.

The post was deleted shortly after and Costello?s X account no longer exists.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/05/...yon-on-social/

Lyon get's a lot of credit - not sure he's the amazing coach everyone thinks he is. He is good at setting up a structure to defend no doubt. That's not the only thing you need though. They just don't score enough his sides, never have.

I did wonder if he would be out of touch with the young guys on return too. Neutered dogs?

[GVGjr]

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This is pretty funny. Phillipou does look like a lazy bust at the moment.

After a six-point loss to Hawthorn on Saturday that left the Saints only percentage above the bottom four, Ned Costello ? a director at Sports Minded, which looks after Phillipou ? took to X the following day.
?@davidking34 tell me who in the forward line has improved under Lyon? (Mitch) Owens, (Max) King, phillipou have gotten considerably worse under Lyon. When they came in young and just played they looked exciting. He is destroying them,? Costello posted on early Sunday afternoon.

The post was deleted shortly after and Costello?s X account no longer exists.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/05/...yon-on-social/

Phillipou is still very young, he was going to need some time no matter what.

[hujsh]

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Lyon get's a lot of credit - not sure he's the amazing coach everyone thinks he is. He is good at setting up a structure to defend no doubt. That's not the only thing you need though. They just don't score enough his sides, never have.

I did wonder if he would be out of touch with the young guys on return too. Neutered dogs?

I personally think the bigger question mark is whether he can guide a developing side up the ladder rather than have a list handed to him and get them playing good football.

[Sedat]

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This is pretty funny. Phillipou does look like a lazy bust at the moment.

He's not the first and won't be the last young player to suffer the 2nd year blues. He's a bottom ager as well - he just need to find some form back in the 2nds and will be fine.

[Bornadog]

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He's not the first and won't be the last young player to suffer the 2nd year blues. He's a bottom ager as well - he just need to find some form back in the 2nds and will be fine.

But he told everyone he is better than Bont

[Mofra]

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But he told everyone he is better than Bont

As a draftee he said his playing style is a mixture of Bont & Fyfe, which to be fair is how most draft watchers describe every mid above 190cm these days anyway.
I can't find source where he says he's better.

[Bornadog]

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As a draftee he said his playing style is a mixture of Bont & Fyfe, which to be fair is how most draft watchers describe every mid above 190cm these days anyway.
I can't find source where he says he's better.

Who puts out a video like this: https://www.tiktok.com/@newssportau/...29767612583169

[SquirrelGrip]

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Ross the Boss also isn't happy about how often the runners can go out these days, as it's more restrictive since he last coached.

Ironically, the runner can go out after each goal, but because his game style is not about scoring, then it's really his fault that the St Kilda runner can't get on the field!

[Mofra]

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Who puts out a video like this: https://www.tiktok.com/@newssportau/...29767612583169

That's (amatuer) media NewsSportAu. Not him.

[GVGjr]

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Last night Saints President Andrew Bassett fired a shot on the AFL about the draft and focused on father son selections and academies.
While I question why the President would raise this directly in front of supporters and the players at their biggest club function by indicating their list is mediocre at best the whole compensation for players leaving, father son bias and some clubs having access to players under the academy set-up probably needs to be reviewed.

[Grantysghost]

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Last night Saints President Andrew Bassett fired a shot on the AFL about the draft and focused on father son selections and academies.
While I question why the President would raise this directly in front of supporters and the players at their biggest club function by indicating their list is mediocre at best the whole compensation for players leaving, father son bias and some clubs having access to players under the academy set-up probably needs to be reviewed.

He has had a fair crack!

The academy reversal is nuts.

I think the AFL would prefer I only one of the Saints, North or Dogs existed.

Did they mention the stadium at all? Docklands is the elephant in the room.

[jazzadogs]

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Didn't the saints get Owens and Windhager cheaply through their academy?
They missed out on Cam Mackenzie because the AFL flip-flopped on that rule, but I don't think they've been disadvantaged that much. Father son comes down to luck, but I think the changes to points/matching will help even it out.

[ledge]

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Seriously this bloke has issues but he needs to look deeper than father/sons or academy players.
The clubs recruiting, development and culture over the years would be a start.
Not going forward playing the poor us card.
How about a review and look at how the successful teams do it.
Tigers won 3 flags and none of the stars were father /son if they had one.
I think the president is the main problem with speeches like that.

[angelopetraglia]

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I give you the Saints 2009 Grand Final team.

Nick Riewoldt. Pick #1
Brendon Goddard. Pick #1
Michael Gardiner. Pick #1
Luke Ball. Pick #2
Justin Koschitzke. Pick #2
Farren Ray. Pick #4
Raphael Clark. Pick #8
Lenny Hayes. Pick #11
Nick Dal Santo. Pick #13

Almost a quarter of their team was taken at either Pick #1 or Pick #2. An embarrassment of riches and they still could not get the job done.

[Bornadog]

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I give you the Saints 2009 Grand Final team.

Nick Riewoldt. Pick #1
Brendon Goddard. Pick #1
Michael Gardiner. Pick #1
Luke Ball. Pick #2
Justin Koschitzke. Pick #2
Farren Ray. Pick #4
Raphael Clark. Pick #8
Lenny Hayes. Pick #11
Nick Dal Santo. Pick #13

Almost a quarter of their team was taken at either Pick #1 or Pick #2. An embrassment of riches and they still could not get the job done.

and have the same coach again