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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    #91
    Re: Carlton

    Originally posted by bornadog
    He could do a deal now. Carlton stick with Teague and he comes in next year?
    That would destroy their club. So I’m all for it.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 65574

      #92
      Re: Carlton

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      That would destroy their club. So I’m all for it.
      Essendon and Carlton my number one hated teams. GWS is different, hate them differently, it is a rivalry hate.

      I won't be able to stand it if we lose Sunday.
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 21375

        #93
        Re: Carlton

        Originally posted by Bulldog4life
        Just like it didn't help when they got rid of Ratten and appointed Malthouse
        Lyon coming out and saying he had guys like Steve Kernahan telling him he should be coach would have to be warning enough, wouldn't it?
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 65574

          #94
          Re: Carlton

          Coach has been sacked.
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • mjp
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7238

            #95
            Re: Carlton

            Originally posted by jeemak
            Lyon coming out and saying he had guys like Steve Kernahan telling him he should be coach would have to be warning enough, wouldn't it?
            I think Lyon should be one of the 18 coaches. He's gotten 2x clubs to Grand Finals...2x clubs who have basically been perennially terrible when anyone other than him was the coach.

            He will get Carlton to defend and they will become a top 8 side basically straight away.

            I feel a touch sorry for Teague given the 'review' and the way it played out adjacent to the season but I think Carlton doomed him from the start due to the circumstances of his appt.
            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              #96
              Re: Carlton

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Coach has been sacked.
              I hope there’s some disenfranchised Carlton players. Time to start ringing a few player agents.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14787

                #97
                Re: Carlton

                Teague has been hung out to dry in a terrible fashion.
                Their defensive system is terrible so questions have to be asked but has any coach been treated in a worse fashion by their own club in living memory?

                Let's not forget he is a staunch Carlton man, a former B&F winner and as a player was considered the 'most courageous' player in the comp more than once by his peers.

                I hate Carlton but I do feel for Teague.
                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                • The Adelaide Connection
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2703

                  #98
                  Re: Carlton

                  David Teague's time at Carlton comes to an end after a strange, drawn-out process


                  Teague gone. Fifth coach to depart in 9 years.

                  Carlton are the gift that keep on giving.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    #99
                    Re: Carlton

                    An relevant club. Pigs arse!!
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • G-Mo77
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9873

                      Re: Carlton

                      I think Lyon will be a terrific coach for them personally. Not a fan myself, he comes across as a pig of a bloke but he'd straighten them up quick smart.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        Re: Carlton

                        Originally posted by G-Mo77
                        I think Lyon will be a terrific coach for them personally. Not a fan myself, he comes across as a pig of a bloke but he'd straighten them up quick smart.
                        Cerra apparently not willing to go to Carlton if Lyon is appointed.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Go_Dogs
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10059

                          Re: Carlton

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Cerra apparently not willing to go to Carlton if Lyon is appointed.
                          Would look good in R,W&B.
                          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                          • macca
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 2350

                            Re: Carlton

                            Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                            Would look good in R,W&B.
                            Good idea , how would we trade for him ?

                            One of tbe reasons carlton sacked Bolton because he was trying to instill a defensive skillset into a young team
                            Teague sacking ,, with one of the reasons circulating they had no defensive system


                            Sure Rose lyon will fix it , amd they will be on tbe way to be one of the most boring teams to watch.

                            I still dont understand why they got rid of Rattem , the players highly respected him.

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21375

                              Re: Carlton

                              Originally posted by mjp
                              I think Lyon should be one of the 18 coaches. He's gotten 2x clubs to Grand Finals...2x clubs who have basically been perennially terrible when anyone other than him was the coach.

                              He will get Carlton to defend and they will become a top 8 side basically straight away.

                              I feel a touch sorry for Teague given the 'review' and the way it played out adjacent to the season but I think Carlton doomed him from the start due to the circumstances of his appt.
                              I think Lyon's a good coach, though it's not as if he took over a basket case when he went to St Kilda - who had made the 04 and 05 preliminary finals and the finals in 06 when Thomas was sacked. He did a great job at Fremantle but they weren't a team bereft of talent, while the Saints were fairly endowed at the top end as well.

                              Agree with you that he'll get Carlton to defend, but I don't think it'll be enough for them to play finals. There's just too many other teams who are better.

                              Anyway, this is so on-brand for Carlton. I look forward to history repeating in three years time.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • westdog54
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6683

                                Re: Carlton

                                Originally posted by jeemak
                                I think Lyon's a good coach, though it's not as if he took over a basket case when he went to St Kilda - who had made the 04 and 05 preliminary finals and the finals in 06 when Thomas was sacked. He did a great job at Fremantle but they weren't a team bereft of talent, while the Saints were fairly endowed at the top end as well.

                                Agree with you that he'll get Carlton to defend, but I don't think it'll be enough for them to play finals. There's just too many other teams who are better.

                                Anyway, this is so on-brand for Carlton. I look forward to history repeating in three years time.
                                They never learn, do they?

                                There's more to that club than the coaches and players. They've never properly moved on from the arrogance of the John Elliott era. They've got no clue how to reestablish a culture.

                                Gold Coast will win a final before this mob.

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