2023 AFL Finals Series

[Testekill]

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Lions headhunted Dunkley and paid him 800k to tag in a grand final.

[Bornadog]

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I'm clearly out of step and will need to look at it again. Thought it was OK when watching the game.

At first just looks like a late hit, but it was the ferocity of the hit, which was totally unnecessary.

DR - not sure it would be reportable, but 3 broken ribs says alot.

[1eyedog]

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At first just looks like a late hit, but it was the ferocity of the hit, which was totally unnecessary.

DR - not sure it would be reportable, but 3 broken ribs says alot.

He rammed his shoulder straight into that exposed rib cage completely unnecessarily.

[bulldogtragic]

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Lions headhunted Dunkley and paid him 800k to tag in a grand final.

I guess the question is, did he do the job?

Dunkley: 21 touches, 6 marks, 4 tackles, 4 Score Involvements, 1 Inside 50’s
De Goey: 18 touches, 5 marks, 4 tackles, 8 Score Involvements, 6 Inside 50’sand 2 goals

Were they in the game with stopping/slowing De Goey? Would the Lions consider that a win? Or was 18 and two goals (& 6 other score involvements) a waste of Dunkley’s other strengthes like offering a marking forward when Zorko & Hipwood were MIA?

We will never know. But I don’t think Dunkley really once hurt Collingwood on the offence and 18 & 2 from his man, especially crucial goals, says that there’s a chance they got it wrong or Dunkley didn’t execute the role perfectly. But yes, $800,000 to tag a guy who played pretty well in a losing GF.

[Grantysghost]

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I'm clearly out of step and will need to look at it again. Thought it was OK when watching the game.

I thought it was a free nothing more. Human canon ball but hit the ribs.
Not the nicest act that's for sure, wouldn't be popular with the Pies boys.

[bulldogtragic]

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I thought it was a free nothing more. Human canon ball but hit the ribs.
Not the nicest act that's for sure, wouldn't be popular with the Pies boys.

I’d give him a week. But worse, Howe’s kicked was marked by a Lions player and would’ve set up a repeat entry. What a dumb thing to do. Like Berry’s dumb 50. Their fake tough man bullshit at the end of the game was very costly.

I know losing GF teams don’t review their losses, but if they did, I think they’d be a few sheepish players having to accept their dumb things contributed to a narrow loss.

[Testekill]

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I guess the question is, did he do the job?

Dunkley: 21 touches, 6 marks, 4 tackles, 4 Score Involvements, 1 Inside 50?s
De Goey: 18 touches, 5 marks, 4 tackles, 8 Score Involvements, 6 Inside 50?sand 2 goals

Were they in the game with stopping/slowing De Goey? Would the Lions consider that a win? Or was 18 and two goals (& 6 other score involvements) a waste of Dunkley?s other strengthes like offering a marking forward when Zorko & Hipwood were MIA?

We will never know. But I don?t think Dunkley really once hurt Collingwood on the offence and 18 & 2 from his man, especially crucial goals, says that there?s a chance they got it wrong or Dunkley didn?t execute the role perfectly. But yes, $800,000 to tag a guy who played pretty well in a losing GF.

While DeGoey wasn't as good as he was last week, 2 goals and six score involvements from 18 touches is ultimately a pretty big failure for a tag especially when you're paying big bucks for that in a grand final. They could have rotated him forward to stretch the Magpies defence a little more since Hipwood offered absolutely nothing despite not having a tall opponent for the majority of the game but the highly vaunted Lions midfield just didn't fire outside of McLuggage so it would have been robbing Peter to pay Paul. They did all their damage rebounding off of the HB line.


edit: I like Devon Robertson but he could have done just as much tagging DeGoey as he did playing normally.

[angelopetraglia]

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I think Collingwoods last two years might be the best 2 years possible as a supporter.

Go in with low expectations, be actually good, fun to watch, all your players embrace their roles and become at worst reliable, win like 15 games last year by under 2 goals (the funnest margin), have a good finals series but ultimately fall short, follow it up with an even better year where you are the best and the changes you made in the off season all work, still win a shitload of close games, continue to play a highly enjoyable brand of footy, win the Premiership in an awesome Grand Final.

It's hard to fault, even the bad bits (like losing the prelim) give just enough adversity to make the good bits (the flag) feel even more earned. Couple this with a fan base that has not been shy about embracing the side and turning out in huge numbers, hard to think of a funner 2 years.

Yeah I'm a little jealous.

Yes. Zero expectations. Then they win a flag in two years. But how many memomorable moments? So many crazy comebacks and close victories. To win the prelim by a point, the GF by four. Incredible.

Also, there is just a fee good, inclusive vibe from this footy team. You can just feel it.

I think it stems from a few different areas and many people have played signicant roles, but booting Eddie McGuire out of the club was a signficant factor.

[angelopetraglia]

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Thought Lippa did all that was asked for yesterday. Kudos to him. He played his role, he had clean hands and he didn't try to bite off too much. He has some critical possesions and put his head over it when he needed to.

The boy from Eltham gets his Premiership Medallion and got to see another boy from Eltham hand the cup over to his son. Boys from Eltham go OK.

[Grantysghost]

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I’d give him a week. But worse, Howe’s kicked was marked by a Lions player and would’ve set up a repeat entry. What a dumb thing to do. Like Berry’s dumb 50. Their fake tough man bullshit at the end of the game was very costly.

I know losing GF teams don’t review their losses, but if they did, I think they’d be a few sheepish players having to accept their dumb things contributed to a narrow loss.

I felt they did have a bit of unearned strutting going on the Lolions.
Certainly the more mouthy of the two sides.

GWS' amazing season franked by that game too. They were as good as anyone (insert vomit emoji)

[Grantysghost]

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Thought Lippa did all that was asked for yesterday. Kudos to him. He played his role, he had clean hands and he didn't try to bite off too much. He has some critical possesions and put his head over it when he needed to.

The boy from Eltham gets his Premiership Medallion and got to see another boy from Eltham hand the cup over to his son. Boys from Eltham go OK.

Agree Lippa played well, did some nice link up play.

I'm still dirty he's gone, I think that's well documented by now! It's ok because McComb who took his time last year really came on.

[angelopetraglia]

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I think yesterdays game summed up why Dunks is a good player. A very, very good player. But isn't a great player and will never be a game winning alpha, franchise player that he thinks he is and what he wants to be paid for.

He is a professional. He gives everything. You can't question his committment, his attack on the footy and ability to get the best out of himself. However, he just isn't blessed with enough talent to rip a game apart or serioulsy damage the opposition. He isn't a great kick, he doesn't have genuine pace, he doesn't have time or space in traffic and his disposal under pressure is questionable.

That they chose to use him as a tagger in the biggest two games of the year is telling. That De Goey kicked the goal that put them in front in the GF in the dying minutes will seriously haunt him for years.

[angelopetraglia]

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We need to talk about Scott Pendlebury.

He will turn 36 in January. He made his debut in 2006. This is his 18th season. The GF was his 383rd game.

He was the difference in that last quarter. When everyone was losing their minds, he kept his head, he was calm, he found time, his used the ball well and increidbly helped himself to 11 possesions, 9 kicks, 2 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles and 4 contested possesions in the last quarter. He atteneded every centre bounce in the last quarter. He wasn't just playing a role as a 35 year old veteran, he was carrying the team on his back. Incredible. Kudos and respect.

[GVGjr]

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We need to talk about Scott Pendlebury.

He will turn 36 in January. He made his debut in 2006. This is his 18th season. The GF was his 383rd game.

He was the difference in that last quarter. When everyone was losing their minds, he kept his head, he was calm, he found time, his used the ball well and increidbly helped himself to 11 possesions, 9 kicks, 2 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles and 4 contested possesions in the last quarter. He atteneded every centre bounce in the last quarter. He wasn't just playing a role as a 35 year old veteran, he was carrying the team on his back. Incredible. Kudos and respect.

He's had a good season and so has Sidebottom. They've got a a lot out of their experienced players.
Pendles is a superb player and isn't showing sings of slowing down.

[angelopetraglia]

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He's had a good season and so has Sidebottom. They've got a a lot out of their experienced players.
Pendles is a superb player and isn't showing sings of slowing down.

I don't think I have seen a player who has more time and creates more space in heavy traffic than Pendles. Also such an intelligent ball user. Amazing talent and so professional to still be performing at his best at 35 years of age after 383 games. He has some issues with his back a few years ago, but he took his training and preparation to another level.