2023 AFL Finals Series

[kruder]

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I just saw Dunkley’s stats for the season, have their coaches got him wrong or at least been blinkered?

Slightly down for a lot of key stats, but shockingly only 2 goals in 24 games. This is a guy who is a good overhead mark and can hit the scoreboard. Or at least, used to hit the scoreboard and make oppo coaches worry about him offensively. I’m kind of taken a bit a back, I know he and them wanted him more midfield. But a guy with goal scoring ability kicking only one goal on average every 12 games is a radical change. Surely he’s worth a burst forward here or there. Not just yesterday. Kind of feels like they’ve got blinkers on.

His hitouts were down also

[ledge]

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Ha. Yes. That line.

However, I have played a lot of basketball and I still coach my children's teams. His space awareness in traffic is not basketball like. It is actually completely different. In basketball you don't need to ever panic with the ball in hand as you can't get tackled. You just need to protect the ball when there are opponents near you. Pendles skill is finding the space and time in heavy traffic to aovid tackles and have time to get a clear possession off. Yes, the pheriphal vision you need in basketball has some synergy, but the ability to side step, to move to where there is space, to not panic with the ball in hand when at anytime from 360 degrees someone can smash you has very, very little to do with basketball.

He is skill is not because he played basketball, he is a gentic freak with his spatial awareness matched by a professional work ethic that has to be in the top few % of all time to play the game.

But being a talented basketballer in a tight small playing area compared to football it must seem like you have so much time and space.
Pendles is one of those rare players where everyone looks to be in slow motion whenever he gets the ball and he just glides through them.
Bont seems to do it as well but not as frequently.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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I'm not exactly a fan of kiss. I don't dislike them. But I thought they put on a great show yesterday.

[Testekill]

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I just saw Dunkley’s stats for the season, have their coaches got him wrong or at least been blinkered?

Slightly down for a lot of key stats, but shockingly only 2 goals in 24 games. This is a guy who is a good overhead mark and can hit the scoreboard. Or at least, used to hit the scoreboard and make oppo coaches worry about him offensively. I’m kind of taken a bit a back, I know he and them wanted him more midfield. But a guy with goal scoring ability kicking only one goal on average every 12 games is a radical change. Surely he’s worth a burst forward here or there. Not just yesterday. Kind of feels like they’ve got blinkers on.

I'm just looking at AFL tables and it does confirm that Brisbane doesn't have a midfielder that can consistently threaten the goals. While it's good that they're splitting mids and forwards they don't have a mid who can roll forward to threaten. It's a big difference compared to Collingwood who have the Daicos brothers and DeGoey who are pretty good at hitting the scoreboard.

[Dry Rot]

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I just saw Dunkley’s stats for the season, have their coaches got him wrong or at least been blinkered?

Slightly down for a lot of key stats, but shockingly only 2 goals in 24 games. This is a guy who is a good overhead mark and can hit the scoreboard. Or at least, used to hit the scoreboard and make oppo coaches worry about him offensively. I’m kind of taken a bit a back, I know he and them wanted him more midfield. But a guy with goal scoring ability kicking only one goal on average every 12 games is a radical change. Surely he’s worth a burst forward here or there. Not just yesterday. Kind of feels like they’ve got blinkers on.

Interesting.

From the few Lions games I saw this year, Dunkley did not stand out.

I was aware of him out there, but I don't really recall much special stuff from him.

$800K for all that does not seem a great investment.

Also makes me wonder if the Lions' salary cap is bottomless.

[angelopetraglia]

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I'm just looking at AFL tables and it does confirm that Brisbane doesn't have a midfielder that can consistently threaten the goals. While it's good that they're splitting mids and forwards they don't have a mid who can roll forward to threaten. It's a big difference compared to Collingwood who have the Daicos brothers and DeGoey who are pretty good at hitting the scoreboard.

Yes agree. 100%.

It is also another key point in why Bont is a much more effective player than Neale. Neale kicked 3 goals in 25 games. Bont kicked 19 goals in 23 games.

It also highlights, that Brisbane is getting a lot more of their goals from classy small fowards that we don't have in Zac, Charlie, McCarthy and Rayner. Zac, Charlie and McCarthy all kicked goals yesterday that I just can't see any of our fowards converting.

[Sedat]

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I just saw Dunkley?s stats for the season, have their coaches got him wrong or at least been blinkered?

Slightly down for a lot of key stats, but shockingly only 2 goals in 24 games. This is a guy who is a good overhead mark and can hit the scoreboard. Or at least, used to hit the scoreboard and make oppo coaches worry about him offensively. I?m kind of taken a bit a back, I know he and them wanted him more midfield. But a guy with goal scoring ability kicking only one goal on average every 12 games is a radical change. Surely he?s worth a burst forward here or there. Not just yesterday. Kind of feels like they?ve got blinkers on.

They needed some defensive steel in their midfield to compliment their more attacking mids. And they do have weapons everywhere in F50 so don't really need him to impact the scoreboard (they had by far the best attack in the comp thie season).

But you're right, $800k on a multi-year deal is a big price to pay for basically a slightly better version of George Hewitt (that's not a knock, I rate Hewitt highly). It was a price worth paying if they pinched another goal yesterday, still might be if they can get a flag in the next year or two.

[Bornadog]

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Both Bobby Hill and Dunkley requested trades to Essendon a few years ago - Dodoro couldn't get it done.

[GVGjr]

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Does anyone feel a bit of a Bob Murphy type moment for Taylor Adams?

[angelopetraglia]

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Both Bobby Hill and Dunkley requested trades to Essendon a few years ago - Dodoro couldn't get it done.

It is so dissapointing that he is moving on. I wish he could stay at Essendon for eternity.

[macca]

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It is so dissapointing that he is moving on. I wish he could stay at Essendon for eternity.

It would be a great lost to the other teams who finished below them this year , imagime all the free agent compo picks they can get with their ex playrrs going to Essendon

[1eyedog]

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I don?t wanna hijack the thread but (as a KISS fan) I just wanted to say I appreciated the comments after their performance. I didn?t have the time to reply, other than like. When they got announced there were a lot of ?haters?. They were proven wrong. All day I?ve been reading nothing but positive on all AFL social media. Not KISS fans, but footy fans. Great to see and was the perfect start to a close, entertaining grand final.
Anyway, I hope everyone enjoyed the day as much as I did.
Thanks again.

Other than miming 80% of the show and having pre recorded backing tracks I thought they were great haha.

[Grantysghost]

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Both Bobby Hill and Dunkley requested trades to Essendon a few years ago - Dodoro couldn't get it done.

Not to mention they picked McGrath at #1 before McCluggage.

[Go_Dogs]

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I was thinking that re Dunks and the ability to be dangerous up front. Even as a marking target helping connection from defence to attack. Brisbane missed a trick there.

[Go_Dogs]

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He has to be close to the Pies GOAT. Six AA. Five Copelands. Two Premierships. Five Grand Finals. A Norm Smith. Nine seasons as captain. Will most likely play his 400th game next year.

(I also think that he and Sidebottom are the only living Collingwood players with more than one Premiership).

Greatest Pie certainly in the modern era and it?s not even close. I don?t know enough about their history beyond that.

He?s certainly firming as a top 20 player of all time, and possibly a bit higher than that too given his resume and longevity. It?s quite remarkable really.

Let?s hope Bont can emulate Pendles in this respect too.