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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44292

    Re: Melbourne Watch 2023/24

    Melbourne apparently owe Brayshaw something like 3 Mill on his contract and will need to apply for dispensation to pay some or all of his contract outside of the salary cap.
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    • Testekill
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 2327

      Re: Melbourne Watch 2023/24

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      It just underlines that players with some serious concussions are very vulnerable.
      It's never just one concussion that causes the damage, it's cumulative. One person that should be followed regarding information on concussions is Chris Nowinski, he's a former pro wrestler who had to retire from post concussion syndrome only three years into his career and is now one of the leading experts on CTE.

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      • SquirrelGrip
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2007
        • 1503

        Re: Melbourne Watch 2023/24

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        Melbourne apparently owe Brayshaw something like 3 Mill on his contract and will need to apply for dispensation to pay some or all of his contract outside of the salary cap.
        It’s an interesting one. What should a player be paid out if he is medically retired? And who should pay - club, AFL or insurer?
        "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18895

          Re: Melbourne Watch 2023/24

          Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
          It?s an interesting one. What should a player be paid out if he is medically retired? And who should pay - club, AFL or insurer?
          I guess he was injured at work and is employed by the club not the AFL.
          My guess is the club.
          Insurance is an interesting one. I dare say that may be the future however not sure the insurer would take the risk?

          Interesting read :https://anziif.com/professional-deve...ad-of-the-game
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • jazzadogs
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Oct 2008
            • 5569

            Re: Melbourne Watch 2023/24

            If the club do have to pay out of their salary cap - does that affect what contract you are offering English?

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44292

              Re: Melbourne Watch 2023/24

              Originally posted by jazzadogs
              If the club do have to pay out of their salary cap - does that affect what contract you are offering English?
              It probably doesn't change much but perhaps a slightly shorter contract offer might be made.
              The genuine interest by West Coast is what is driving up the contract value and the length of a deal.
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              • SquirrelGrip
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2007
                • 1503

                Re: Melbourne Watch 2023/24

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                I guess he was injured at work and is employed by the club not the AFL.
                My guess is the club.
                Insurance is an interesting one. I dare say that may be the future however not sure the insurer would take the risk?

                Interesting read :https://anziif.com/professional-deve...ad-of-the-game
                Over time the AFL may need to self insure on this. I’m not aware of WorkSafe’s position on professional sports injuries.
                "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66102

                  Re: Melbourne Watch 2023/24

                  Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                  Over time the AFL may need to self insure on this. I?m not aware of WorkSafe?s position on professional sports injuries.
                  Does it come under Workcare Policy?

                  edit:

                  Found this article but no update on findings:

                  WorkSafe appoints concussion experts to investigate AFL

                  see here
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                  • ReLoad
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 1450

                    Re: Melbourne Watch 2023/24

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Does it come under Workcare Policy?

                    edit:

                    Found this article but no update on findings:

                    WorkSafe appoints concussion experts to investigate AFL

                    see here
                    The interesting part is, Melbourne will be trying to get his contract now paid OUTSIDE the salary cap, this is fraught with so much danger, What if it is back loaded and melbourne got him for nothing early on?

                    Surely the payout has to stay 100% within the cap. Its no different to having a player who does 3 ACL's and career over too?

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                    • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8896

                      Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                      Originally posted by chef
                      They all had a bit of a bump at 3 quarter time?
                      It looked more like someone roofied our gatorade about 90 seconds before 3 Qtr time in the 21 GF.
                      I'll check with GG he'll have a vivid and descriptive recollection of how that that dumpster fire got lit.

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                      • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8896

                        Re: Melbourne Watch 2023/24

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        Melbourne apparently owe Brayshaw something like 3 Mill on his contract and will need to apply for dispensation to pay some or all of his contract outside of the salary cap.
                        I hold zero love for Melbourne.. but unless it is somehow shown they knew of this impending decision, or even had a whiff it was a potential outcome and they restructured his contract to reflect them expecting to be able to a) remunerate Brasyhaw fairly, and b) be able to expunge the salary from their cap through medical circumstances, then it should not be an issue.

                        They're not suggesting that are they? Because if so, then screw them, pay Brayshaw and cop the full salary hit, plus lose say a 3rd round pick for being shit-asses

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                        • bulldogsthru&thru
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • May 2011
                          • 7708

                          Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                          Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                          It looked more like someone roofied our gatorade about 90 seconds before 3 Qtr time in the 21 GF.
                          I'll check with GG he'll have a vivid and descriptive recollection of how that that dumpster fire got lit.
                          GG was drinking the same gatorade on the night it now appears.

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                          • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8896

                            Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                            Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                            GG was drinking the same gatorade on the night it now appears.
                            Look that was a difficult night for all, some more than others..... but we'll always have GG going rogue to nestle fondly in our memory

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                            • bulldogsthru&thru
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • May 2011
                              • 7708

                              Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                              Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                              Look that was a difficult night for all, some more than others..... but we'll always have GG going rogue to nestle fondly in our memory
                              Well if the gatorade also caused memory loss then I wish I had my hands on some. Maybe it did....maybe that's why we thought there was no point reviewing the game.....hmm this all adds up too well to not be correct.

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66102

                                Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                                Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                                Well if the gatorade also caused memory loss then I wish I had my hands on some. Maybe it did....maybe that's why we thought there was no point reviewing the game.....hmm this all adds up too well to not be correct.
                                What game???
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