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  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9876

    Re: Trade Rumours 2024

    Originally posted by jazzadogs
    Reports Eagles are giving up pick THREE for Carlton's 12, 14 and Owies.

    Somebody please explain that to me!!!
    How do we get in on deals like this? Pick 3?!? Bloody hell, well done Carlton.

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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11839

      Re: Trade Rumours 2024

      Originally posted by G-Mo77
      How do we get in on deals like this? Pick 3?!? Bloody hell, well done Carlton.
      They did a terrible deal, but got someone else to make an even more terrible deal, retroactively making the first deal brilliant
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • bulldogsthru&thru
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • May 2011
        • 7697

        Re: Trade Rumours 2024

        What is going on this trade period!?

        Well done Carlton moving a future 1st and 2nd into pick 3. West Coast wanting to fight gold coast and port for worst traders.

        I would also like to get in on these deals somehow. It's annoying that the bigger clubs seem to be taking advantage. How does that work?

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15300

          Re: Trade Rumours 2024

          For all the posters asking why we cannot get in on deals... honestly... it is because we hold up deals such as Dunkley, Macrae, Daniel, Smith, Bruce, Keath etc etc.

          Carlton looked at this trade period as a whole, not as individual trades.

          IMO, Power looks at each deal individually rather than an overall outcome.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66687

            Re: Trade Rumours 2024

            Originally posted by G-Mo77
            How do we get in on deals like this? Pick 3?!? Bloody hell, well done Carlton.
            Looking like this:

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            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              Re: Trade Rumours 2024

              Originally posted by azabob
              For all the posters asking why we cannot get in on deals... honestly... it is because we hold up deals such as Dunkley, Macrae, Daniel, Smith, Bruce, Keath etc etc.

              Carlton looked at this trade period as a whole, not as individual trades.

              IMO, Power looks at each deal individually rather than an overall outcome.
              Power massaged Keath & Bruce, such that we kept the pick for Weightman. Something the media said was impossible.

              With Dunkley we held out to get the pick for AOD, and swapped two F3 for a F2. That F2 got unpacked for Croft and in the process was used to get Coffield for free.

              So on these alone, Power holding out got us Weightman, AOD & Coffield. He also held out on Marcus Adams to get an extra pick that paid for half of Bruce too. This allowing the chance to keep the Weightman pick.

              He moved swiftly to lock up Pick 6 last year before the bidding war heated up.

              I?m not sure it?s an overly fair critique of Sam. What?s the alternative of demanding better deals this year, take just 17 for BS, 47 for Jack and an upgrade for CD?
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • jazzadogs
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Oct 2008
                • 5640

                Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                Originally posted by G-Mo77
                How do we get in on deals like this? Pick 3?!? Bloody hell, well done Carlton.
                Their plan to use Barrass picks for Baker got destroyed by Hawthorn, so they went and found another way to get the picks they needed. I wish we were dealing with WCE rather than Geelong.

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                • Axe Man
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 11150

                  Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                  West Coast gave up pick 2 in 2022 (could have been Sheezel) for 9 (Ginbey) and 14 (Hewitt). Seems they have learned nothing.

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                  • azabob
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15300

                    Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    Power massaged Keath & Bruce, such that we kept the pick for Weightman. Something the media said was impossible.

                    With Dunkley we held out to get the pick for AOD, and swapped two F3 for a F2. That F2 got unpacked for Croft and in the process was used to get Coffield for free.

                    So on these alone, Power holding out got us Weightman, AOD & Coffield. He also held out on Marcus Adams to get an extra pick that paid for half of Bruce too. This allowing the chance to keep the Weightman pick.

                    He moved swiftly to lock up Pick 6 last year before the bidding war heated up.

                    I?m not sure it?s an overly fair critique of Sam. What?s the alternative of demanding better deals this year, take just 17 for BS, 47 for Jack and an upgrade for CD?
                    I am not unhappy with the outcomes; posters are venting why cannot we do the same.

                    Rightly or wrongly the facts are we do not agree to terms early.

                    I am ok with that, as clearly, we have a strategy, and we stick to it.
                    More of an In Bruges guy?

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                      Originally posted by azabob
                      I am not unhappy with the outcomes; posters are venting why cannot we do the same.

                      Rightly or wrongly the facts are we do not agree to terms early.

                      I am ok with that, as clearly, we have a strategy, and we stick to it.
                      Cool. I think it’s problem with the system and not us. If the trade period was 3-4 days, and clubs had to work quickly and couldn’t use time as a weapon/pressure point then we could move quicker I’d imagine. What the posters you refer to need to remember is we seem to looking at moving up the draft order. If Power can land some good picks he’s still got until the National Draft to trade picks to move up the draft order. So if we aren’t interested in players, but upgrading picks. The deadline isn’t tomorrow it’s another month for that. Tomorrow is just about whether Sam can get as many good picks as possible to manoeuvre up the order or use a F1 to also get another first this year.

                      I think some have forgotten when we had guys like Fantasia push out Callan Ward, McCartney folding like a cheap suit for bad deals in and out. Forgetting trading top picks for Veale/Rawlings, Street, Koops, Morgan etc, etc. and Jacovich before that. We’ve finally got a smart operator that deserves our trust and has runs on the board. We should question why some players want to leave the club, but that’s not Sam’s area.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • lemmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 6520

                        Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Looking like this:

                        That's absolutely horrendous for the Eagles

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                          Originally posted by lemmon
                          That's absolutely horrendous for the Eagles
                          Good luck with the rebuild…
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18957

                            Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Looking like this:

                            If the Eagles are getting Bo Allan that's an understandable deal for them.

                            Pick 3 though, I get the angst it usually is a super player! Could be the next Bont!!
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11839

                              Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                              Summary I've seen for Carlton is 'Carlton have given up pick 12, their future 1st, future 2nd and Owies' to get pick 3. Owies is whatever they didn't want him and TBH could have been done though PSD. So 12 is the only clear asset they've lost and the rest depends on next year. If it's 12+12+30 that's pretty good.
                              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                                Originally posted by hujsh
                                Summary I've seen for Carlton is 'Carlton have given up pick 12, their future 1st, future 2nd and Owies' to get pick 3. Owies is whatever they didn't want him and TBH could have been done though PSD. So 12 is the only clear asset they've lost and the rest depends on next year. If it's 12+12+30 that's pretty good.
                                Outrageous return. I struggle to believe a club would do this trade. Carlton have done so well.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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