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  • Greystache
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Dec 2009
    • 9775

    #46
    Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

    Originally posted by Mofra
    Bingo - you can't expect loyalty if you're not prepared to show it.
    I dare say the Crows' strategy of never offering anything more than a 1 year deal for their players turning 30 doesn't help their retention rate, which is a massive problem this end of season.
    We've shown plenty of loyalty, it hasn't done us any good. We keep veterans on past their used by dates, we empower players to the point they're almost running the on field side of the club (see Ward playing round 24), and we consider the players feelings in almost every decision we make. Yet two new clubs with big cheque books come into the league and our two brightest young stars can't sign quick enough. We're the only club to have lost two young players to expansion clubs, our loyalty hasn't made one iota of difference to obtaining the loyalty of our players.
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    • Missing Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8501

      #47
      Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

      Originally posted by Greystache
      We've shown plenty of loyalty, it hasn't done us any good. We keep veterans on past their used by dates, we empower players to the point they're almost running the on field side of the club (see Ward playing round 24), and we consider the players feelings in almost every decision we make. Yet two new clubs with big cheque books come into the league and our two brightest young stars can't sign quick enough. We're the only club to have lost two young players to expansion clubs, our loyalty hasn't made one iota of difference to obtaining the loyalty of our players.
      Not true, Adelaide lost Bock & Davis !!!

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #48
        Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

        Bock wasn't a baby

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        • Greystache
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Dec 2009
          • 9775

          #49
          Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

          Originally posted by OLD SCRAGGer
          Not true, Adelaide lost Bock & Davis !!!
          Nathan Bock's about to turn 29.
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          • jazzadogs
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Oct 2008
            • 5646

            #50
            Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

            Originally posted by Desipura
            I have not seen him play but can recall how he is a polular figure around the club. If McCartney rates him enough to want to pick him up, I am ok with that as he would know more than most if he could develop Tom into a regular senior player.
            I believe I'm some sort of distant relation to Tom, so watched his first few games fairly closely. From what I saw he was actually quite strong with his defensive side (which you would expect to improve, as these judgements were last season) but his kicking may have let him down at times.

            Scarlett, Taylor and recently Lonergan are a pretty tough bunch of KP defenders to kick out of a side, and I think he's come close in occasion. If we can get him for a late draft pick, when we would be drafting a speculative tall anyway, I don't see why not.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66731

              #51
              Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

              Emma Quayle tweet:

              Hearing that the Dogs are very keen on Gunston & that the Crows would like to deal with them. Can they twist his arm?
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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #52
                Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Emma Quayle tweet:

                Hearing that the Dogs are very keen on Gunston & that the Crows would like to deal with them. Can they twist his arm?
                Read Crows want Howard.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66731

                  #53
                  Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                  Originally posted by Chops
                  Read Crows want Howard.
                  Would you take it?
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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #54
                    Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Would you take it?
                    I have no idea on Gunston. As for Howard, he'll never be his draft place worth. If he is homesick for Adelaide(hehe) then I would cut our losses.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #55
                      Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                      Originally posted by Chops
                      I have no idea on Gunston. As for Howard, he'll never be his draft place worth. If he is homesick for Adelaide(hehe) then I would cut our losses.
                      What's wrong with Walkerville?

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #56
                        Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                        Originally posted by EJ Smith
                        What's wrong with Walkerville?
                        Full of coneheads. Is that where I stayed?

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                        • Rocco Jones
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 6932

                          #57
                          Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                          Originally posted by Chops
                          I have no idea on Gunston. As for Howard, he'll never be his draft place worth. If he is homesick for Adelaide(hehe) then I would cut our losses.
                          Me too.

                          The criticise I hear about Gunston is that he isn't a genuine KP forward. I agree with this but he can still be valuable. Another one I hear is we have Panos. Panos is far from guaranteed to make it and if they both make become quality players than I am sure it's a problem we can live with.

                          I think Gunston is a safer bet of making it than Howard and I see their potential upside as pretty similar. As Chops says, if he is homesick I would definitely take it.

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                          • The Coon Dog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7579

                            #58
                            Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                            I would be surprised if Howard cites homesickness as a reason for wanting out.

                            You get the feeling it might have been brought on by some sort of approach from the licorice allsorts!
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                            • Missing Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8501

                              #59
                              Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                              IF we offerd GWS : San Reid, Josh Hill & Brennan Stack for Jager O'Mera do you think GWS would take that? I'd LOVE to get O'mera

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                              • Rocco Jones
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 6932

                                #60
                                Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                                Originally posted by OLD SCRAGGer
                                IF we offerd GWS : San Reid, Josh Hill & Brennan Stack for Jager O'Mera do you think GWS would take that? I'd LOVE to get O'mera
                                Ahh the classic a whole bunch of crap we don't want for something we really want.

                                I have a heap of clothes I am about to drop off at a Salvo's bin, reckon if I go to Myer they will give me a really nice jumper or pair of jeans for them?

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