Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

**westdog54** · 06-10-2011, 06:58 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

Originally posted by Rocco Jones

Ahh the classic a whole bunch of crap we don't want for something we really want.

I have a heap of clothes I am about to drop off at a Salvo's bin, reckon if I go to Myer they will give me a really nice jumper or pair of jeans for them?

Harsh call but good call.

Is that Barry Morgan from the world of organs in your Avatar?

**kruder** · 06-10-2011, 07:47 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

Originally posted by Chops

I have no idea on Gunston. As for Howard, he'll never be his draft place worth. If he is homesick for Adelaide(hehe) then I would cut our losses.

I disagree on Howard. For me he shows all the signs of an excellent AFL player.

I think next year will be the year he cements himself.

**divvydan** · 06-10-2011, 07:52 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

Late August we had 7 pups and Williams sign new contracts but Howard wasn't one of them. It does have me a little concerned that they all did except him (and obv Ward).

**Maddog37** · 06-10-2011, 07:53 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

Originally posted by divvydan

Late August we had 7 pups and Williams sign new contracts but Howard wasn't one of them. It does have me a little concerned that they all did except him (and obv Ward).

When you put it like that it screams that something is on the nose.

**Rocco Jones** · 06-10-2011, 08:17 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

Originally posted by westdog54

Harsh call but good call.

Is that Barry Morgan from the world of organs in your Avatar?

The one and only.

**LostDoggy** · 06-10-2011, 08:21 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

Originally posted by Topdog

Why don't we just offer to kick Kevin Sheedy in the nuts in exchange for O'mera?

LMAO! We'd need to offer someone like Roughead or Wood and a decent draft pick to get close to O'meara I suspect. Given they've already stolen Ward can we just go kick Sheedy in the nuts anyway, and then forget about trading with these bandits.

**BulldogBelle** · 06-10-2011, 08:39 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

Originally posted by divvydan

Late August we had 7 pups and Williams sign new contracts but Howard wasn't one of them. It does have me a little concerned that they all did except him (and obv Ward).

Didn't Howard share a house with Ward and Reid?

Sounds like the cancer has spread

If he doesn't want to be at the club - and cant be convinced under any circumstances to stay in Melbourne, then trade him

So we would be trading pick #15 in the 2009 draft with 6 games under his belt directly for pick #29 in the same draft with 14 games under his belt

Fair trade?

**divvydan** · 06-10-2011, 08:42 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

I should say I have no idea about where Howard's head is at and haven't seen anything to suggest he wants out, just a little concerned that he didn't sign up when his peers did.

**Maddog37** · 06-10-2011, 08:43 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

Originally posted by Dog House

Didn't Howard share a house with Ward and Reid?

Sounds like the cancer has spread

If he doesn't want to be at the club - and cant be convinced under any circumstances to stay in Melbourne, then trade him

So we would be trading pick #15 in the 2009 draft with 6 games under his belt directly for pick #29 in the same draft with 14 games under his belt

Fair trade?

Howard was a speculative pick at 15 and pick29 would be a more realistic value for him and even that could be viewed as generous if I recall correctly. Others will know better than me but we had to beat the Crows to him hence why we got him so early.

**Mantis** · 06-10-2011, 10:03 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

Originally posted by kruder

I disagree on Howard. For me he shows all the signs of an excellent AFL player.

I think next year will be the year he cements himself.

All the signs?

His inability to compete in the air has to be a massive concern.

**LostDoggy** · 06-10-2011, 10:10 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

I think we all agree we will not challenge for the premiership in the next three years, so why not give the list we have a chance to develop.Apart from the obvious delistings/trades Hill,Prato,Ried,Johannisson,Barlow,Addison,Hooper,Mulligan & maybe Stack.
What i can see not much on offer & the half decent players usually pick where they want to go.
I believe we should put faith in our recruitment & go for draft picks.
IMO some supporters are getting a bit carried away if it wasn't for injuries to key players we would of made & been competitive in the eight this year, but the bright side of that is we got games into young players which would not of got a look in.
LETS NOT THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER! Howard,Lake,Gia!? C'MON!

**Greystache** · 06-10-2011, 10:25 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

Originally posted by Dale_dogs

I think we all agree we will not challenge for the premiership in the next three years, so why not give the list we have a chance to develop.Apart from the obvious delistings/trades Hill,Prato,Ried,Johannisson,Barlow,Addison,Hooper,Mulligan & maybe Stack.
What i can see not much on offer & the half decent players usually pick where they want to go.
I believe we should put faith in our recruitment & go for draft picks.
IMO some supporters are getting a bit carried away if it wasn't for injuries to key players we would of made & been competitive in the eight this year, but the bright side of that is we got games into young players which would not of got a look in.
LETS NOT THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER! Howard,Lake,Gia!? C'MON!

What have you seen in one season to suggest Johannissen is an obvious delisting?

**Sedat** · 06-10-2011, 10:40 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

Originally posted by Mantis

All the signs?

His inability to compete in the air has to be a massive concern.

Lacks a yard of pace as well, which will make it difficult to see him establish a place in our defensive unit. I was impressed by his competitiveness at ground level this season but his leg speed and inability to compete aerially will make it tough for him to become the rebounding defender we drafted him for - you could get by without one of these attributes down back (ie: Davis, Yarran) but not both.

I think he can have a solid AFL career, just not as a rebounding defender.

**anfo27** · 06-10-2011, 10:53 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

Originally posted by Pickenitup

I would like us to look at the following players
Clinton Young
Brent Macaffer
I think these two could really help us Young Is A Great Kick who breaks the lines
Macaffer was great for the Pies Last year and would help with our Forward press

no thankyou to both. Young is always injured and Macaffer is a terrible kick for goal and i'd rather try to draft some talented kids instead of picking up ok players that will never be stars, we have too many of those players already.

**Bornadog** · 06-10-2011, 11:23 PM

Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

Originally posted by Sedat

Lacks a yard of pace as well, which will make it difficult to see him establish a place in our defensive unit. I was impressed by his competitiveness at ground level this season but his leg speed and inability to compete aerially will make it tough for him to become the rebounding defender we drafted him for - you could get by without one of these attributes down back (ie: Davis, Yarran) but not both.

I think he can have a solid AFL career, just not as a rebounding defender.

The funny thing Howard doesn't see himself as a defender, he prefers to play up the ground.

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