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  • Remi Moses
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 14785

    #61
    Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Yet some posters have a go at Ward and Harbrow for not being loyal.
    Totally honest Brian hasn't done himself any favours, mind you neither did Brett Montgomery.
    Add to the mix the inflammatory comments from his manager.
    The club's got a salary cap and has a duty to manage the list in it's parameters, yes we all love loyality but let's be honest in this industry, 30 is Paramount to 50 in the real world.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66688

      #62
      Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

      Originally posted by Remi Moses
      Totally honest Brian hasn't done himself any favours, mind you neither did Brett Montgomery.
      Add to the mix the inflammatory comments from his manager.
      The club's got a salary cap and has a duty to manage the list in it's parameters, yes we all love loyality but let's be honest in this industry, 30 is Paramount to 50 in the real world.
      Fletcher says hello
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15444

        #63
        Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Fletcher says hello
        Does he?

        His body shape is a little different to Lake's.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66688

          #64
          Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

          Originally posted by Mantis
          Does he?

          His body shape is a little different to Lake's.
          Hello from Fletcher
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #65
            Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

            Originally posted by Chops
            Full of coneheads. Is that where I stayed?
            Yep.

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            • Topdog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7471

              #66
              Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

              Originally posted by OLD SCRAGGer
              IF we offerd GWS : San Reid, Josh Hill & Brennan Stack for Jager O'Mera do you think GWS would take that? I'd LOVE to get O'mera
              Why don't we just offer to kick Kevin Sheedy in the nuts in exchange for O'mera?

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              • Missing Dog
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8501

                #67
                Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                Ahh the classic a whole bunch of crap we don't want for something we really want.

                I have a heap of clothes I am about to drop off at a Salvo's bin, reckon if I go to Myer they will give me a really nice jumper or pair of jeans for them?
                No need to be a total smart arse, it was just a question...

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                • G-Mo77
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9876

                  #68
                  Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                  Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                  I would be surprised if Howard cites homesickness as a reason for wanting out.

                  You get the feeling it might have been brought on by some sort of approach from the licorice allsorts!
                  Disappointing.

                  I know a lot aren't that keen on Howard, I like him and think he has a very bright future.

                  Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                  I think Gunston is a safer bet of making it than Howard and I see their potential upside as pretty similar. As Chops says, if he is homesick I would definitely take it.
                  Would Adelaide take it though?

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 14945

                    #69
                    Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                    Originally posted by Greystache
                    We've shown plenty of loyalty, it hasn't done us any good. We keep veterans on past their used by dates, we empower players to the point they're almost running the on field side of the club (see Ward playing round 24), and we consider the players feelings in almost every decision we make. Yet two new clubs with big cheque books come into the league and our two brightest young stars can't sign quick enough. We're the only club to have lost two young players to expansion clubs, our loyalty hasn't made one iota of difference to obtaining the loyalty of our players.
                    That depends on your definition of shown plenty of loyalty - that's an opinion.
                    In any case, we have been far closer to a grand final berth than most sides over the past few years so we can't have been too far off striking the right balance.

                    I would suggest the club that has shown the least amount of loyalty to players is the Adelaide Crows - and they're struggling with an exodus.

                    The point still stands - you either preach loyalty and show it, or you don't preach it and don't show it. You can't have it both ways.
                    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                    • EasternWest
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 10002

                      #70
                      Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                      Originally posted by OLD SCRAGGer
                      IF we offerd GWS : San Reid, Josh Hill & Brennan Stack for Jager O'Mera do you think GWS would take that? I'd LOVE to get O'mera
                      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                      Ahh the classic a whole bunch of crap we don't want for something we really want.

                      I have a heap of clothes I am about to drop off at a Salvo's bin, reckon if I go to Myer they will give me a really nice jumper or pair of jeans for them?
                      Originally posted by OLD SCRAGGer
                      No need to be a total smart arse, it was just a question...
                      The thing is it's the same question that's posted on here and every footy forum at this time of year, and the crux of what Rocco is saying is true. Look at your question again, and see it from the other side. Would you want three flaky (for various reasons) players for a young potential gun? Of course not. Of course you'd love to get him for those three, so would I.

                      I'd love to offer the Hawks Addison, Minson and Hooper for Buddy too. I wonder what Rocco's thoughts are about that?

                      Don't take Rocco's response too personally. He might feel bad about it and give you a free early pass in the sweep next year. In fact, by way of retribution, I order Rocco to do this for you. He usually listens to me. I think he fears me.
                      "It's over. It's all over."

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44622

                        #71
                        Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                        Originally posted by OLD SCRAGGer
                        IF we offerd GWS : San Reid, Josh Hill & Brennan Stack for Jager O'Mera do you think GWS would take that? I'd LOVE to get O'mera
                        My understanding is that the mini draft works a funny way. Basically GWS field all the offers and then they allocate the draft order based on who gave them the best deal. They very well might accept a combination of draft picks and players from us but it might not guarantee us the player we want.
                        We might get pick 3 or 4 rather than 1.
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                        • Remi Moses
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 14785

                          #72
                          Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Fletcher says hello
                          One player over 30.Facts are 29 and over you're not going to get a long contract.
                          Fletcher, Michael Tuck and Robert Harvey and a few others are exception to the rule, you get old quickly playing this sport.

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                          • Remi Moses
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 14785

                            #73
                            Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                            Originally posted by always right
                            Why are people giving any credit whatsoever to the article in The Age? It was filler stuff from two blokes with no particular insights just throwing up some random thoughts. Had it been in the Herald sun it would have been dismissed after the first post.

                            For a team in need of pace and good disposal there is no way we would be looking to trade Howard.
                            All the credibility of a Jon Ralph special in the Hun.
                            More gold from Ralph malph Addam Maric is leaving Adelaide!
                            Playing for Melbourne and Adelaide takes a special talent.
                            Do agree though the names thrown up with some of the clubs won't see the light of day.

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                            • Missing Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8501

                              #74
                              Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                              I would like us to look at the following players
                              Clinton Young
                              Brent Macaffer
                              I think these two could really help us Young Is A Great Kick who breaks the lines
                              Macaffer was great for the Pies Last year and would help with our Forward press

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15302

                                #75
                                Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                                Originally posted by Pickenitup
                                I would like us to look at the following players
                                Clinton Young
                                Brent Macaffer
                                I think these two could really help us Young Is A Great Kick who breaks the lines
                                Macaffer was great for the Pies Last year and would help with our Forward press
                                It appears as though Mcaffer is on offer to whoever wants him.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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