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  • westdog54
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6683

    #16
    Re: Ben Cousins again

    Originally posted by jeemak
    westdog54, are you sure? I've heard WA's intent to supply and trafficing are a little more onerous than other states (appreciate your username might infer you're from WA, so happy to be educated)?
    No, I'm a Victorian Copper.

    Not sure on legislation in WA but you have to have some sort of evidence of trafficking beyond the quantity in your possession (unless its an exceptionally large quantity, see below). You'd want to also find him with things like deal bags, scales, cutting agents, that sort of stuff, before you'd consider going after him for trafficking, unless he's made admissions in an interview.

    Having said that, the Drugs Poisons and Controlled Substances Act also has defined Traffickable, Commercial and Large Commercial quantities of illegal substances. It would have to be a significant amount to prove a charge of trafficking.

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    • Sockeye Salmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6365

      #17
      Re: Ben Cousins again

      They have been watching him for 8 months.

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      • SlimPickens
        Coaching Staff
        • Aug 2010
        • 2929

        #18
        Re: Ben Cousins again

        Originally posted by westdog54
        No, I'm a Victorian Copper.

        Not sure on legislation in WA but you have to have some sort of evidence of trafficking beyond the quantity in your possession (unless its an exceptionally large quantity, see below). You'd want to also find him with things like deal bags, scales, cutting agents, that sort of stuff, before you'd consider going after him for trafficking, unless he's made admissions in an interview.

        Having said that, the Drugs Poisons and Controlled Substances Act also has defined Traffickable, Commercial and Large Commercial quantities of illegal substances. It would have to be a significant amount to prove a charge of trafficking.
        Being reported that he had 4 grams on him, is that a substantial amount?
        "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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        • chef
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 14450

          #19
          Re: Ben Cousins again

          Originally posted by comrade
          Clearly it's not.
          It's not ATM, but I've seen people come back from a lot worse places then Ben. We have a Teen Challenge here in Ky and they do fantastic work(Gary Ablett spent a fair bit of time there), but he has to want to change first.
          The curse is dead.

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14450

            #20
            Re: Ben Cousins again

            Originally posted by SlimPickens
            Being reported that he had 4 grams on him, is that a substantial amount?
            I thought it was reported as over 4 grams.
            The curse is dead.

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            • SlimPickens
              Coaching Staff
              • Aug 2010
              • 2929

              #21
              Re: Ben Cousins again

              Originally posted by chef
              I thought it was reported as over 4 grams.
              From the HUN "found carrying four grams", doesn't really matter.
              "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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              • SlimPickens
                Coaching Staff
                • Aug 2010
                • 2929

                #22
                Re: Ben Cousins again

                Just a horrible situation for Ben and family. The guy clearly needs help and the appropriate support structure around him.

                Hopefully he is back in rehab before he is due in court.
                "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                • Maddog37
                  WOOF Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3132

                  #23
                  Re: Ben Cousins again

                  Stashed in his rectum on the way to a rehab centre. Seems he was undermining himself in a big way.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #24
                    Re: Ben Cousins again

                    Originally posted by AndrewP6
                    Just so sad the guy is so messed up. Let's not forget, he's also someone's brother, son and now, father.
                    So true Andrew - I think if you ask most addicts (be it drugs/alcohol) they would tell you they don't really wanted to be addicted! Incredibly sad now that he has a little one!

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                    • Murphy'sLore
                      WOOF Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 2085

                      #25
                      Re: Ben Cousins again

                      So sad. Everyone wanted this story to have a happy ending - I guess that's still possible, it just seems a whole lot further away now.

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                      • westdog54
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6683

                        #26
                        Re: Ben Cousins again

                        Originally posted by SlimPickens
                        Being reported that he had 4 grams on him, is that a substantial amount?
                        2 Grams is a commercial quantity.

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                        • Hotdog60
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5763

                          #27
                          Re: Ben Cousins again

                          Over Ben Cousins.......


                          The parents arer the ones suffering here and their son a DH who can't help himself.
                          Don't piss off old people
                          The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21378

                            #28
                            Re: Ben Cousins again

                            I found it pathetic that CH7 felt the need to get in his face at Perth Airport on Wendnesday (of Thursday, can't recall).

                            Firstly, the last thing I'd want to be doing for a job is antagonise and follow a meth addict with a microphone and camera. Particularly if the meth addict happened to have been stripped of over four grams of meth, arrested and charged with serious criminal offences. Asking for trouble IMO.

                            Secondly, the guy is clearly very ill. At what stage does the media say enough's enough?
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • AndrewP6
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 8142

                              #29
                              Re: Ben Cousins again

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              I found it pathetic that CH7 felt the need to get in his face at Perth Airport on Wendnesday (of Thursday, can't recall).

                              Firstly, the last thing I'd want to be doing for a job is antagonise and follow a meth addict with a microphone and camera. Particularly if the meth addict happened to have been stripped of over four grams of meth, arrested and charged with serious criminal offences. Asking for trouble IMO.

                              Secondly, the guy is clearly very ill. At what stage does the media say enough's enough?
                              Spot on. Their constant harassment of Cousins (and anyone else they are after a story on) is disgusting. I saw that and was kind of hoping he did lash out at them, they would have deserved it. Apparently he told one oin the plane she could ask two questions (which he then answered). But for the parasites following him, that wasn't enough

                              In answer to your next question, they likely won't stop until he's six feet under. And then they'll probably write about what a champion he was.Your right they are pathetic.
                              [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                              • ledge
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 14027

                                #30
                                Re: Ben Cousins again

                                Originally posted by AndrewP6
                                Spot on. Their constant harassment of Cousins (and anyone else they are after a story on) is disgusting. I saw that and was kind of hoping he did lash out at them, they would have deserved it. Apparently he told one oin the plane she could ask two questions (which he then answered). But for the parasites following him, that wasn't enough

                                In answer to your next question, they likely won't stop until he's six feet under. And then they'll probably write about what a champion he was.Your right they are pathetic.
                                He has to expect it, he has made big money out of the media, if you use it for your advantage at times you have to take the good with the bad.

                                Especially when he made a special about his drug addiction that was so popular people want to know the next episode.

                                Cold facts are if he doesnt want the media around him its too late when he is a human headline created by himself.
                                Bring back the biff

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