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  • Scraggers
    Premiership Moderator
    • Jun 2008
    • 3551

    Re: Ben Cousins again

    Good one Twodogs !!! Well done mate

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    • Topdog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7468

      Re: Ben Cousins again

      Congrats mate, that is awesome.

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      • Twodogs
        Administrator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27645

        Re: Ben Cousins again

        Thanks guys.

        I've learned that you have to accept responsibility to move forward and making good choices is the most important thing in life. I don't think Ben is ready or capable of doing either of those things. There really is no simple answer be it locking him up or legalising drugs and letting him go free range. The guys got demons and they have to becalmed because his using is classic self medicating.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 65579

          Re: Ben Cousins again

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          As a matter of interest today is 6.5 years clean of all drugs for me. No hard drugs, no 'recreational' (I hate that term so much-I was never told a bigger lie) drugs, no alcohol.

          Thanks FDOTM you saved my life mate.
          Great Stuff Carl, keep at it. The bloody stuff stays in you forever craving it.
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21400

            Re: Ben Cousins again

            Awesome Carl.

            Congratulations mate.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14028

              Re: Ben Cousins again

              Well we all have one thing we are addicted to .. The Western Bulldog football club and at the moment it is probably the best thing in the world to be addicted to !
              Bring back the biff

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                Re: Ben Cousins again

                Originally posted by Twodogs
                As a matter of interest today is 6.5 years clean of all drugs for me. No hard drugs, no 'recreational' (I hate that term so much-I was never told a bigger lie) drugs, no alcohol.

                Thanks FDOTM you saved my life mate.
                Sensational work TD!

                Having been in a similar position myself about 16 years ago,I know the mental strength it takes
                to be able to resist the hourly and daily urges and cravings that the mind and body constantly cry out for.
                One day at a time brother,
                One day at a time.

                #Respect

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                • Twodogs
                  Administrator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27645

                  Re: Ben Cousins again

                  Originally posted by redders70
                  Sensational work TD!

                  Having been in a similar position myself about 16 years ago,I know the mental strength it takes
                  to be able to resist the hourly and daily urges and cravings that the mind and body constantly cry out for.
                  One day at a time brother,
                  One day at a time
                  .

                  #Respect

                  It's the only way to live, every morning is a good morning these days.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • merantau
                    Coaching Staff
                    • May 2015
                    • 3931

                    Re: Ben Cousins again

                    Originally posted by Twodogs
                    It's the only way to live, every morning is a good morning these days.
                    Thanks for sharing with us TD. It's educative for me to hear from someone who's been around the block because I'm guilty of rushing to judgment on Ben Cousins - taking the simplistic view that he is l totally self-centered by choice whereas the addiction has actually removed his choice.
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                    "It's not about the destination - it's about the trip."

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                    • Scraggers
                      Premiership Moderator
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 3551

                      Re: Ben Cousins again

                      LINK

                      And again !!! This guy needs serious intervention !!!!

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        Re: Ben Cousins again

                        Originally posted by Scraggers
                        LINK

                        And again !!! This guy needs serious intervention !!!!
                        He had an intervention, from the court by way of a violence intervention order, which he's breached. I'm not a fan of the prison system as a form of rehabilitation, but there's a lot more issues than that now. Imprisonment also has stated aims of punishing recidivist offending, ensuring community safety and deterrence to other would be offenders (they'll be a range of views about why, how etc). But at this point the story is get a good lawyer and you can run completely amok through Perth with impunity. His addiction is one angle of these circumstances but it's starting to encompass more and more other issues now. The last thing anyone wants to see is Cousins hurt himself or others and his life trajectory is equal part bad, equal part sad.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Twodogs
                          Administrator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27645

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                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          He had an intervention, from the court by way of a violence intervention order, which he's breached. I'm not a fan of the prison system as a form of rehabilitation, but there's a lot more issues than that now. Imprisonment also has stated aims of punishing recidivist offending, ensuring community safety and deterrence to other would be offenders (they'll be a range of views about why, how etc). But at this point the story is get a good lawyer and you can run completely amok through Perth with impunity. His addiction is one angle of these circumstances but it's starting to encompass more and more other issues now. The last thing anyone wants to see is Cousins hurt himself or others and his life trajectory is equal part bad, equal part sad.

                          Agree. It's gone past the point of him just getting busted for possession and drug related offences to really reckless offences against the person. At some stage it goes past "it doesn't make sense to lock me up because I'm off my guts all the time and prison is an awful place to detox". Anyway who are we kidding? Prison has the best drugs.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14028

                            Re: Ben Cousins again

                            At least in prison he isn't going to hurt the innocent bystander or driver. At what stage do we worry about the general public more than him?
                            Let's face it if he seriously hurt someone now people will ask how many chances does this guy get .. All the signs have been ticked he isn't safe in the community anymore.
                            It becomes more about the innocent victim than him now.
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 43886

                              Re: Ben Cousins again

                              He's ignoring all the warnings he's been getting and reprimands or fines aren't working.

                              I was listening to SEN today and apparently even he believes he will be in the big house by Xmas. Whatever it takes to keep him and most importantly others safe should be the main aim.
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                Re: Ben Cousins again

                                At some point when a person's life has spiralled so much out of control, and the people that love you so much have done all they think they can for you,as a last resort to be locked up can be the most sobering realism.
                                Not only to avoid the harm towards others but also to oneself.
                                Hope and pray that Ben can get his life back on the track to redemption.

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