2013 Phantom Draft

[LostDoggy]

Okay, so this is an area I’ve become pretty interested in over the last three or four years. This is my first attempt at a Phantom Draft and I realise it'll have many short-comings so I’ll be the first to put my hand up for that.

I just thought it'd be good to get some names and positions on paper to see what's on the table at draft time, especially with the Operation Tom Boyd going haywire and now that the Championships are finished.

I've used the current ladder positions of teams to determine the draft order. One thing I’ve included is the fact I doubt GWS will use their second choice, so that's taken out. I haven’t included priority picks/compensation picks - not even going there. Hopefully Essendon lose all their draft picks, but they’re currently included.

All the descriptions are my own, except where I haven't seen the player at all, which is one on my list I believe. Apologises if any sound like they're plagiarised descriptions, they're not done on purpose.

Let the discussion and vitriol begin !

(mods, feel free to fix up the attachment so it shows if you can, cheers)

[bulldogtragic]

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Thanks for sharing MRM. I don't know enough to consider myself a credible judge right through, but thanks for the contribution to the board. Much appreciated.

I will spend the avo educating myself. Cheers.

[bulldogtragic]

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First impressions for us quality run and carry. Best case for us if we cant land Boyd. ive Just read up on Kade K, seems a likely sort. Sheed and Kade K with the class of 2012 would represent some hope for the midfield. The forward line is the obvious failing, are there no KPFs round pick 20 that rate alongside Kade K? How do you rate Hourigan who you have going one pick after us?

BAD and others like me are shattered that young Dayle is going top 10. Goo for him though, last year just had to be.

I also like 22 and 23, " Fantasia, Clayton McCartney".

[LostDoggy]

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First impressions for us quality run and carry. Best case for us if we cant land Boyd. ive Just read up on Kade K, seems a likely sort. Sheed and Kade K with the class of 2012 would represent some hope for the midfield. The forward line is the obvious failing, are there no KPFs round pick 20 that rate alongside Kade K?

BAD and others like me are shattered that young Dayle is going top 10. Goo for him though, last year just had to be.

I'm going by what MJP has said a month or so back about Dayle going early. Watched three or four matches he's played in this year and he's that far above WAFL level it's not funny. I'd have hoped he'd slip through to a second round but MJP seemed to think he'd go top ten, so based on that and the fact WC have a top pick currently, i've lumped him with them.

As for Kade K, FFS, you had to pick the one player i hadn't seen, only read about.

The KP fwds, particulary from SA, that i;ve rated higher are Reynolds, Harvey then Hourogan (in that order). They worked so well together, all playing different roles. Looked much better than Marsh and McCarthy who looked at a lower level, and the VM and VC guys (McCartin aside because he's a 2014 prospect).

[LostDoggy]

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I also like 22 and 23, " Fantasia, Clayton McCartney".

My bias is towards bigger bodied midfielders with us currently, hence it probably reflects in the PD.

Fantasia, if he goes near where i've got him, could compliment a team that picks up Aish as their synergy for Norwood/SA could be exploited.

[SlimPickens]

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Great effort MRM disagree on a couple of spots but think you're pretty much on the money.

[Bornadog]

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MJP mentioned in another thread that Sheed will be better at HBF for his first few years, are you happy with that?

[Missing Dog]

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From someone that's done a few phantom drafts himself, well done. It's harder then you think.

A couple things.

Adelaide have given both 1st and 2nd round picks due to the Tippett saga.
I think I read GWS have activated a 1st round pick some where (mid round maybe?) and GC an end of 1st round pick. May need to confirm that.

Also, I hope we pick Aish if he was available.

[bulldogtragic]

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From someone that's done a few phantom drafts himself, well done. It's harder then you think.

A couple things.

Adelaide have given both 1st and 2nd round picks due to the Tippett saga.
I think I read GWS have activated a 1st round pick some where (mid round maybe?) and GC an end of 1st round pick. May need to confirm that.

Also, I hope we pick Aish if he was available.

Yep. Adelaide no picks 8 and 25.
GWS around pick 12
GCS around pick 18
PPs and Essendon TBA

Just shuffling chairs really, MRMs FD still holds up.

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FLEDGLING clubs Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney will again be strong players at this year's draft after both decided to activate early compensation picks.

The Suns had three picks available to use this year and the Giants had two, but both will activate only one this season and spread them over consecutive drafts.

Ahead of Tuesday's deadline whereby clubs need to notify the League, AFL.com.au understands Gold Coast will activate its end-of-first-round compensation pick for this year's draft.

The club had to decide whether to activate that selection or the first-round pick it also holds which is tied to Geelong's finishing position.

This meant some of its decision-making process revolved around predicting if the Cats would finish higher in 2013 or 2014.

Gold Coast's final compensation selection, another end-of-round one pick, will be used in 2015.

The Giants will activate their mid-first-round pick this year.

The move adds more strength to the Sydney club's position on draft night, meaning it will have an extra selection in the top 10 or so picks regardless of its finishing position.

GWS will use its other banked compensation pick, an end-of-first-round selection, next year.

West Coast is the only other club with a remaining compensation pick, but it is unlikely to use it until 2014.

The Eagles faced a tough decision in whether or not to use the third-round pick this year but are set to leave it to be activated next year.

The pick is tied to Collingwood's finishing position and could have forced the Eagles to take four picks to the draft when under AFL rules the minimum is three picks.

[wimberga]

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Thanks for the effort MRM.

What are your thoughts on Freeman? A lot of people are really starting to rate his ability to burst through packs and play with that real explosiveness that few players bar dangerfield, cooney & judd have/had?

[Throughandthrough]

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Great effort, i'm impressed


Steffe the ruckman is completely incapable of kicking a footy. IMHO i wouldnt be surprised if he slips a long, long way.

[LostDoggy]

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MJP mentioned in another thread that Sheed will be better at HBF for his first few years, are you happy with that?

We're short down there also. Murphy retiring in near future. Cooney working/not working/JJ learnign the ropes and Goodes questionable.

Sheed and Griff and the middle would add a lot of dash and polish to compliment Libba.

[LostDoggy]

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From someone that's done a few phantom drafts himself, well done. It's harder then you think.

A couple things.

Adelaide have given both 1st and 2nd round picks due to the Tippett saga.
I think I read GWS have activated a 1st round pick some where (mid round maybe?) and GC an end of 1st round pick. May need to confirm that.

Also, I hope we pick Aish if he was available.

Didn't realise Adelaide had done it for this year also, cheers.

[LostDoggy]

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Great effort, i'm impressed


Steffe the ruckman is completely incapable of kicking a footy. IMHO i wouldnt be surprised if he slips a long, long way.

Cheers T&T. I'm wondering if any out and out ruckman at this level will be picked before the late rounds, or teams will just look to the state leagues for first backups. Only named Steffe as he was a giant and i thought at least one team would secure a ruckman with a second pick, but he wasn't named with any confidence.

[Hotdog60]

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I wouldn't have a clue about the up and comers but really enjoyed the read. Great effort M.R.M