Stick with code, says WADA

[LostDoggy]

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ASADA have made a mockery of this entire process. I hope WADA drills them to the wall.

[Doc26]

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Ok. On a different issue, how bad does it look that the biggest thing to hit the AFL has occurred while Vlad and his puppy are knowingly overseas.

Knowingly overseas to hopefully finally resolve the biggest issue facing our Club and the other minnows, an unequal and unjust competition that Demetriou and co. are currently responsible for and overseeing and one that the Commission must also ensure is resolved expeditiously. Personally I'm more than glad that this Equalisation focussed trip wasn't put on the back burner.

[Ghost Dog]

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Is Hird the most image conscious sportsman of all time?

Melatonin, plucked eyebrows, the blonde tips and Hexorelin. Heck, I wouldn't coach without them.

[Bornadog]

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Knowingly overseas to hopefully finally resolve the biggest issue facing our Club and the other minnows, an unequal and unjust competition that Demetriou and co. are currently responsible for and overseeing and one that the Commission must also ensure is resolved expeditiously. Personally I'm more than glad that this Equalisation focussed trip wasn't put on the back burner.

Heard Peter saying this morning that the AFL is 30 years behind some of the leagues in the USA On equalisation

[wimberga]

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Knowingly overseas to hopefully finally resolve the biggest issue facing our Club and the other minnows, an unequal and unjust competition that Demetriou and co. are currently responsible for and overseeing and one that the Commission must also ensure is resolved expeditiously. Personally I'm more than glad that this Equalisation focussed trip wasn't put on the back burner.

Agree with this. The Media all went angry at Demetriou of leaving the country to go on this equalisation trip, all because they are unable to get their sound bites from him.

He can't do or say anything until the report is actually released, and it's just tokenism that sees him remaining in the country whilst this is all happened.

Equalisation is a huge issue, particularly for our club and I am also really happy that it wasn't put on the back burner.

[azabob]

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If Essendon players are found to have taken banned substances and they escape penalties then Saad should also be let off also.

Can't have rules for some and rules for others.

[azabob]

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As DOC says, I have no issues with Demetriou being overseas to investigating how to make our game better.

What I have an issue with is his yearly overseas trip for 4-5 weeks in the middle of the footy season.

[GVGjr]

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If Essendon players are found to have taken banned substances and they escape penalties then Saad should also be let off also.

Can't have rules for some and rules for others.

The rules might be different because they are different issues. Saads relates to game day.
The problem with the Essendon players is that no one is certain which players have received certain supplements.

I think it's the Essendon personnel and the administration of the supplements that will cop the brunt of the fall out more than the players. The players deserve something but I think it will be a penalty rather than a ban.

It's a chilling reminder for all players to be 100% certain of what they are taking. Coaches that plead ignorance because it's supposedly the sports science department area of expertise deserve no leniency.

[azabob]

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The rules might be different because they are different issues. Saads relates to game day.
The problem with the Essendon players is that no one is certain which players have received certain supplements.

I think it's the Essendon personnel and the administration of the supplements that will cop the brunt of the fall out more than the players. The players deserve something but I think it will be a penalty rather than a ban.

It's a chilling reminder for all players to be 100% certain of what they are taking. Coaches that plead ignorance because it's supposedly the sports science department area of expertise deserve no leniency.

You are right GVGjr. For some reason I get the feeling it will be easier for the governing bodies (AFL & ASDA) to penalise and make an example of Saad rather than the PR machine of Hird and Essendon.

[Hotdog60]

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You are right GVGjr. For some reason I get the feeling it will be easier for the governing bodies (AFL & ASDA) to penalise and make an example of Saad rather than the PR machine of Hird and Essendon.

If Saad cops it and Watson who admitted it to the media doesn't. Saad should go to the media and reference why am I the only one being punished for being a DH.

[The Adelaide Connection]

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The cynic in me says the timeline for the release of their comments on the findings + the 14 days the Bombers get to respond will coincide with the end of the final round of the H&A season.

This will mean that no fixtures will be affected, the AFL wont lose income, and they wont have to compensate networks/stadiums etc.

[LostDoggy]

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Saad should get his whack like the rest of them. If Saad is let off how does that look at how Matthew Clark from Frankston VFL was banned. One rule for all, whether its the Bombres or lower grades.

[bulldogtragic]

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Saad should get his whack like the rest of them. If Saad is let off how does that look at how Matthew Clark from Frankston VFL was banned. One rule for all, whether its the Bombres or lower grades.

And Mattys case was just as extenuating. He and teammates were taking the supplements when they were actually approved and the substance changed from ok, not not ok, on July 1st (from memory). He just didnt know of the change in status. So when he took it he honestly believed it was approved by ASADA. Sound familiar?

How did that argument stack up on appeal?

[Bornadog]

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And Mattys case was just as extenuating. He and teammates were taking the supplements when they were actually approved and the substance changed from ok, not not ok, on July 1st (from memory). He just didnt know of the change in status. So when he took it he honestly believed it was approved by ASADA. Sound familiar?

How did that argument stack up on appeal?

Clark, 22, is serving a two-year suspension handed down by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA), after he was found guilty of taking a banned substance whilst playing for Frankston in the VFL in 2011.

His story has been well documented.

He accepted a pre-match drink named 'Hemo Rage' from a teammate and afterwards, tested positive to an ingredient named Dimethylamylamine.

Clark says he was aware that he would be drug tested that day, but was assured by his teammate that the product was within the drug code.

Initially handed a nine-month ban, ASADA appealed the decision, and eventually, Clark was given the maximum two years.

Don't forget Wade Lee, he was importing performance enhancing drugs and hadn't even taken the stuff and got banned for 18 months.

[SonofScray]

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SEN reporting that Hird has been asked by Essendon to stand down. All happening?