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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #61
    Re: Stick with code, says WADA

    Vlad needs to be stood down, on full pay, pending an investigation.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21991

      #62
      Re: Stick with code, says WADA

      Originally posted by Sedat
      http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...725-2qkt2.html

      Well, well, well. Looks as though the holy triumvirate of Vlad, Evans and Hird is already starting to crumble.
      It has to break into every man for themselves soon, surely?
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • westdog54
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6686

        #63
        Re: Stick with code, says WADA

        Its all unravelling at a rate of knots isn't it. This could end extraordinarily badly for all involved.

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        • Ghost Dog
          WOOF Member
          • May 2010
          • 9404

          #64
          Re: Stick with code, says WADA

          Caro jumping the gun a bit? If you watch the press conference, he doesn't claim a tip off at all. Just that Vlad called him the night of their meeting.
          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            #65
            Re: Stick with code, says WADA

            Originally posted by jeemak
            It has to break into every man for themselves soon, surely?
            Hird was asked today if Vlad did anything wrong by calling and speaking to Evans the night before the storm.

            Hird said "I wouldn't have thought he has, but I'm not the ACC, I'm not ASADA."

            Hardly putting out the fire...
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13312

              #66
              Re: Stick with code, says WADA

              Originally posted by jeemak
              It has to break into every man for themselves soon, surely?
              I would think that behind the scenes it already has.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #67
                Re: Stick with code, says WADA

                Originally posted by Sedat
                http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...725-2qkt2.html

                Well, well, well. Looks as though the holy triumvirate of Vlad, Evans and Hird is already starting to crumble.
                Getting all warm and tingly. Its starting to feel like my birthday and christmas all getting rolled up into a glorious day just around the corner

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 15060

                  #68
                  Re: Stick with code, says WADA

                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...725-2qkt2.html

                  Well, well, well. Looks as though the holy triumvirate of Vlad, Evans and Hird is already starting to crumble.
                  ... and when it does, who has the most power to wield out of the three?

                  Certainly not anyone who travels to Tullamarine or Windy Hill on a daily basis.
                  Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #69
                    Re: Stick with code, says WADA

                    No different than O'Grady today.

                    Brand them a cheat, strip them of everything and banish them.

                    Interesting the attitudes of th media and powers that be.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11437

                      #70
                      Re: Stick with code, says WADA

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      ... and when it does, who has the most power to wield out of the three?

                      Certainly not anyone who travels to Tullamarine or Windy Hill on a daily basis.
                      Yep, I suspect there's a world of hurt heading the way of EFC. But they will do whatever they can to try and deflect some of that pain down the Tullmarine Fwy to Docklands.

                      I don't think any rational person is buying the line that Essendon and the AFL only found about the drug scandal when the ACC report was released in Feb. Take this little morsel from Vlad way back in March 2012:


                      Who do you think Vlad was referring to in this quote:

                      "They need to understand that their influence should be limited to how they put their team out on the park, but that's where it stops," Demetriou said.

                      "The decision makers at clubs (relating) to medical issues are the club doctors, that's in our rules and regulations.

                      "If anyone is not abiding by that they should be very careful, because there are strict financial sanctions.

                      "Phys-edders don't overrule doctors."


                      So it has been established that the AFL warned Hird about the peptide program as far back as late 2011, then Vlad is declaring was on 'phys-edders' in March 2012. And yet nothing at all was done to put a stop to the shady practices at any stage last year. If it is proven that Vlad deliberately sought to bury this issue, he should suffer the same consequences as the EFC.
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • FrediKanoute
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 3859

                        #71
                        Re: Stick with code, says WADA

                        If Vlad has warned Essendon of the ACC investigation he has probably breached some form of NDA he was required to sign.

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                        • anfo27
                          WOOF Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2003

                          #72
                          Re: Stick with code, says WADA

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          Yep, I suspect there's a world of hurt heading the way of EFC. But they will do whatever they can to try and deflect some of that pain down the Tullmarine Fwy to Docklands.

                          I don't think any rational person is buying the line that Essendon and the AFL only found about the drug scandal when the ACC report was released in Feb. Take this little morsel from Vlad way back in March 2012:


                          Who do you think Vlad was referring to in this quote:

                          "They need to understand that their influence should be limited to how they put their team out on the park, but that's where it stops," Demetriou said.

                          "The decision makers at clubs (relating) to medical issues are the club doctors, that's in our rules and regulations.

                          "If anyone is not abiding by that they should be very careful, because there are strict financial sanctions.

                          "Phys-edders don't overrule doctors."


                          So it has been established that the AFL warned Hird about the peptide program as far back as late 2011, then Vlad is declaring was on 'phys-edders' in March 2012. And yet nothing at all was done to put a stop to the shady practices at any stage last year. If it is proven that Vlad deliberately sought to bury this issue, he should suffer the same consequences as the EFC.


                          Thats it in a nutshell for me. Essendon will get what they get but Vlad has to get his right whack. We've been hearing for long time now that Essendon are confident their players will be fine based on ASADA investigators telling them they won't face suspensions. Vlad orchestrated this deal & its now blown up in his face.
                          Now he is denying he knew about Essendons problems. My mate who is an Essendon nut told me he heard about this story weeks ago when Essendon self reported. Now if he knew how on earth would Vlad not know!
                          His position is quickly becoming untenable.

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                          • Ghost Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 9404

                            #73
                            Re: Stick with code, says WADA

                            Originally posted by anfo27
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                            Thats it in a nutshell for me. Essendon will get what they get but Vlad has to get his right whack. We've been hearing for long time now that Essendon are confident their players will be fine based on ASADA investigators telling them they won't face suspensions. Vlad orchestrated this deal & its now blown up in his face.
                            Now he is denying he knew about Essendons problems. My mate who is an Essendon nut told me he heard about this story weeks ago when Essendon self reported. Now if he knew how on earth would Vlad not know!
                            His position is quickly becoming untenable.
                            Or is it how the media has orchestrated it. The other argument is ( not sure I believe it ) ASADA gave an outline of the whole process, including the part where under special cases, there would be exemptions. The media jumped on this small part to indicate Essendon would get a soft landing.
                            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                            • anfo27
                              WOOF Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2003

                              #74
                              Re: Stick with code, says WADA

                              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                              Or is it how the media has orchestrated it. The other argument is ( not sure I believe it ) ASADA gave an outline of the whole process, including the part where under special cases, there would be exemptions. The media jumped on this small part to indicate Essendon would get a soft landing.
                              But everything we have heard coming out of Essendon has suggested this is what the Essendon players have been told. For months these Essendon maggots have been so confident that their players will not face sanctions. The media are scum but they are onto something here.

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                              • Ghost Dog
                                WOOF Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 9404

                                #75
                                Re: Stick with code, says WADA

                                Originally posted by anfo27
                                But everything we have heard coming out of Essendon has suggested this is what the Essendon players have been told. For months these Essendon maggots have been so confident that their players will not face sanctions. The media are scum but they are onto something here.
                                If you can actually stand going over to Bomber Blitz ( hold your nose, good god their mods let the leash go don't they? ) you are right anfo. Posters with supposed 'close connections' have been saying this for some time. I'm not sure if this is an error in how the players interpreted ASADA and their classification of AOD whatever, or if ASADA actually did give them a bit of hope. Either way, things seem to have turned for the worse against the EFC this week.

                                Mike Sheehan comes out and paints a darker possible picture than last week.
                                You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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