ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

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  • Rocket Science
    Coaching Staff
    • Oct 2007
    • 4852

    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

    Next masterstroke from AFEL House : John 'Sammy' Newman as ambassador for Women's Round.
    BORDERLINE FLYING

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27654

      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

      Originally posted by Rocket Science
      Next masterstroke from AFEL House : John 'Sammy' Newman as ambassador for Women's Round.

      Pity Aaron James hasn't got a larger profile.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • boydogs
        WOOF Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 5844

        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        Imagine if Paddy Ryder wins the Norm Smith this season, he may just refuse to get up there.
        It's a possibility, Ryder and Port are playing well
        If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

        Formerly gogriff

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21826

          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

          Originally posted by boydogs
          Going against the grain on this. The Weapon put together Essendon's doping program, yes Hird and the players were negligent in not monitoring it or asking questions but I'm not convinced they concocted it. They destroyed the evidence and fought tooth and nail against punishment, but I don't think you could call Hird a drug cheat
          Installing a drug program, being complicit in its execution and covering it up are all as bad as each other.

          The issue with Hird is he rubber stamped all of those aspects.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27654

            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

            Originally posted by boydogs
            Going against the grain on this. The Weapon put together Essendon's doping program, yes Hird and the players were negligent in not monitoring it or asking questions but I'm not convinced they concocted it. They destroyed the evidence and fought tooth and nail against punishment, but I don't think you could call Hird a drug cheat
            From what I've read Hird was much more than a silent partner or unwitting participant. He was in on a lot of the early planning and he let Robinson know exactly what type of footballers he wanted as senior coach.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 21826

              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

              As for the players, the only responsibility in this situation was for them to keep a receipt of what was injected into their bodies.

              That was all they needed to do and funnily, all of them failed to do that. Why? Probably coercion from the club, but none of their advisers be they family or managers had the sense to pull them up over a significant period of time.

              I have no sympathy for any of them.
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11841

                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                They were all told not to be honest about if they were even getting injections IIRC so they all knew something was being done that shouldn't be.

                All guilty
                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21826

                  Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                  I'm sure somewhere within the last 157 pages we'll find proof we're going over old ground.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44636

                    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                    Originally posted by The bulldog tragician
                    I thought this was a hoax.

                    The AFL & their Old Boys and Good Blokes Network just don't get it.

                    Imagine Lance Armstrong being allowed to present the medal to the Tour de France winner.

                    This is beyond embarrassing
                    Excellent point

                    Hird must have regained his confidence because he might not get a positive reaction from the crowd the AFL could be hoping for.
                    He was in a very fragile state and you have to wonder what impact it could have on him and his children when the booing no doubt starts.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • Topdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7471

                      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                      Laughable. Apparently this tradition that they can't break is 3 years old. Morons.

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                      • G-Mo77
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9876

                        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                        Isn't it wonderful for James though. Such a great story.

                        ***vomits***

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21826

                          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                          He'll be employed by ch7 next year.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • Sedat
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 11248

                            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                            The Essendon doping saga has shown just how insular the AFL community really is. Dopers from international sports are treated as pariahs, and coaches responsible are banished for life. In AFL we roll out the red carpet and give them a big sloppy kiss upon their 'triumphant' return. Embarrassing just how insecure the AFL community is that they feel as though they need to put their arms around people who have shat on the sport.
                            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27654

                              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                              Originally posted by Sedat
                              The Essendon doping saga has shown just how insular the AFL community really is. Dopers from international sports are treated as pariahs, and coaches responsible are banished for life. In AFL we roll out the red carpet and give them a big sloppy kiss upon their 'triumphant' return. Embarrassing just how insecure the AFL community is that they feel as though they need to put their arms around people who have shat on the sport.

                              Yep. This is unbelievable. In a sadly believable way.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • The bulldog tragician
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 1972

                                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                                He also trashed his own club. His protracted legal battles and private war on the AFL made the whole saga worse than it should have been, left Essendon worse off (not that I care) and dragged out the outcome. Some of his actions were pure drivel - remember the claim that he provided a spreadsheet of what had been injected but the nasty AFL lost/destroyed it? (If so it would have been the biggest story of the whole saga. He showed no empathy for his players or those around him who took the fall, unlike him. Yet it's all meant to be ok with a comeback cameo on the biggest day and biggest stage of the year?
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