ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27654

    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

    Originally posted by Remi Moses
    Hird can't coach this club , surely.
    He couldn't coach to start with. Boom boom.

    Let's go after Carlisle.
    The AFL might have to have a mini draft for Essendon players leaving. Gold Coast and GWS will have the first 30 picks between them.

    Yeah. Let's get Carlisle and then some.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • josie
      Coaching Staff
      • Oct 2012
      • 4481

      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

      I feel so sorry for the players and the bomber's fans & members who are logical (I know a few) who think Hird should have resigned a long time ago and think this court case was a waste of time & money.

      Good result thought for AFL and for fairness.

      And Yep - if any of their listed players are disgruntled and they fit what we need, we should consider making offers.
      Josie :)

      Our day will come
      And we'll have everything.
      We'll share the joy
      Just like '54 again.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

        Has anyone stopped for a moment and considered Brendan Goddard in all this?


        Nup, neither have i

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        • Go_Dogs
          Hall of Fame
          • Jan 2007
          • 10152

          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

          Surprisingly the Federal Court looked at the evidence and legislation in reaching their determination. Everyone at Essendon, and indeed the AFL itself, will struggle with this foreign concept.

          Good outcome. Go Middleton J.
          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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          • whythelongface
            Coaching Staff
            • Jan 2007
            • 4484

            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

            Originally posted by Griffen#16
            Surprisingly the Federal Court looked at the evidence and legislation in reaching their determination. Everyone at Essendon, and indeed the AFL itself, will struggle with this foreign concept.

            Good outcome. Go Middleton J.
            That is the thing that baffles me. Surely from a legal standpoint they had no case. Their lawyers may have thought that there could be a nice little earner out of this - we can screw them royally

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            • Maddog37
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3132

              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

              I laughed at Goddard suggesting it was unfair that other clubs were trying to harass and shove things down the throats of the Essendon players.

              Oh the irony.

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              • The bulldog tragician
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2013
                • 1972

                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                Originally posted by josie
                I feel so sorry for the players and the bomber's fans & members who are logical (I know a few) who think Hird should have resigned a long time ago and think this court case was a waste of time & money.

                Good result thought for AFL and for fairness.

                And Yep - if any of their listed players are disgruntled and they fit what we need, we should consider making offers.
                I haven't come across any Bombers fans that I could feel a skerrick of sympathy for. The arrogance and the delusional behaviour of Cult Hird supporters has been just about as sickening as the original behaviour with its complete contempt for the well being of their players and refusal to take responsibility. I'd like to think in a similar position Dogs fans would be disgusted at their club for basically cheating and angry that money you put into the club goes into fighting it and deifying James. Hird ( a holiday in France for disgracing the club???)

                As for an appeal, it will need to be based on Law. You can't appeal because you just don't like a decision, you have to show serious errors in legal reasoning and convince three judges.

                It really is time they took their lumps (was going to say medicine ) and showed some belated integrity, accepted their culpability and cleaned out everyone remotely associated with their drug regime.
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                • Go_Dogs
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 10152

                  Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                  Originally posted by whythelongface
                  That is the thing that baffles me. Surely from a legal standpoint they had no case. Their lawyers may have thought that there could be a nice little earner out of this - we can screw them royally
                  With these types of matters there is always a reason why, albeit a slim chance of succeeding on the merits, hoping a decision maker (and in this case, the general public) is impressed with window dressing in your evidence (or indeed, an opportunity for it to be heard), a delaying tactic or perhaps they're just vexatious.

                  I'm sure all applicants were strongly advised about the pros and cons of the bringing the application and provided written instructions confirming they wished to proceed. No doubt a good earner for the solicitors and counsel involved, but given the (litigious) clients, they would have covered their own backsides too.
                  Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                  • anfo27
                    WOOF Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 2002

                    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                    Originally posted by Sedat
                    Justice Middleton: "Essendon and Hird to pay costs"

                    It just keeps getting better
                    Any idea Sedat what sort of ball park figure we are talking about here?

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                    • Go_Dogs
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 10152

                      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                      Originally posted by anfo27
                      Any idea Sedat what sort of ball park figure we are talking about here?
                      They would be assessed or agreed. Probably somewhere in the vicinity of 50-70% of the total.

                      No idea what ASADA's bill would have been, but from memory it was a 3 day hearing - so somewhere upwards of $50k, maybe closer to $100k. (edit, perhaps even more on reflection.)
                      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                      • The bulldog tragician
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 1972

                        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                        I think this sums up EFC's likely next steps
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                        Author of [URL="http://www.blackincbooks.com.au/books/mighty-west"]"The Mighty West: the Bulldogs journey from daydream believers to premiership heroes[/URL]"
                        Twitter @bulldogstragic

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                        • anfo27
                          WOOF Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2002

                          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                          Originally posted by Griffen#16
                          They would be assessed or agreed. Probably somewhere in the vicinity of 50-70% of the total.

                          No idea what ASADA's bill would have been, but from memory it was a 3 day hearing - so somewhere upwards of $50k, maybe closer to $100k. (edit, perhaps even more on reflection.)
                          Was hoping it was a ridiculous figure.

                          Do not feel sorry for Essendon supporters because everyone I have met has been brainwashed. This will set them back 10 years.

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                          • anfo27
                            WOOF Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 2002

                            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                            Originally posted by The bulldog tragician
                            I think this sums up EFC's likely next steps
                            http://titusoreily.com/paul-little-o...light-problem/
                            Nice one.

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                            • Sedat
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 11245

                              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                              Originally posted by anfo27
                              Any idea Sedat what sort of ball park figure we are talking about here?
                              About $1 million is what I'm hearing
                              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                              • anfo27
                                WOOF Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 2002

                                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                                Originally posted by Sedat
                                About $1 million is what I'm hearing
                                Now that is a figure I was hoping for!

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