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  • Murphy'sLore
    WOOF Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 2085

    #46
    Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

    I'm not in favour of priority picks pushing everyone else down the order, it seems fundamentally unfair. But it seems the AFL have decided to keep priority picks for the instance when a whole team is wiped out in a plane crash.

    I probably only think it's unfair because we're not going to get one.

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    • lemmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2008
      • 6432

      #47
      Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

      Originally posted by wimberga
      Agree with this. Go with the sensible solution.

      The only other thing I could see being helpful to Melbourne would be something along the line of a mid second round pick which they HAVE to trade for a player or lose. If they don't use it, thats all well and good. If they can get a semi-decent player at that point in the draft, they can benefit and other clubs are not as adversely affected (particularly with regards to those precious 1st rounders).

      I'd prefer them to get nothing but any thoughts on this idea?
      Is more tinkering seriously the solution? I've heard people talk about draft concessions, an increased salary cap, exemption from the footy department tax, trades that must be picked...surely it's time the club simply sorted itself out? For a competition that is supposed to be cyclically dictated by boom and bust periods of club success we sure do love convoluting things.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 65591

        #48
        Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

        AFL knocks back a Melbourne priority pick

        The AFL has knocked back Melbourne's request for a priority selection at the upcoming national draft.The Demons had made a request for a priority pick, which are only awarded at the discretion of the AFL commission, which discussed the request on Monday and decided against granting the Demons an extra pick.
        Melbourne was informed verbally on Monday and officially on Tuesday.


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        • Daughter of the West
          WOOF Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 918

          #49
          Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

          Originally posted by bornadog
          AFL knocks back a Melbourne priority pick

          Good.
          Wake me up when we get to heaven, let me sleep if we're going to hell

          Good luck, for your sake I hope heaven and hell are really there, but I wouldn't hold my breath

          And we all found heaven - 2016 Premiers!

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          • Scraggers
            Premiership Moderator
            • Jun 2008
            • 3551

            #50
            Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

            Originally posted by Daughter of the West
            Good.
            Ditto

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #51
              Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

              Originally posted by Scraggers
              Ditto
              Here here

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              • ledge
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2007
                • 14028

                #52
                Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

                Why should they get one if they haven't got their development in order and stuff up another players career, that's probably the AFLs thinking.
                As for us we should ask, we were given bugger all for Ward and have had to wear all the GWS and GC priority picks in front of us taking all the tall forwards and our development team has been up to standard.
                Bring back the biff

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                • 1eyedog
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 13120

                  #53
                  Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

                  Suck it.
                  But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 43890

                    #54
                    Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

                    Lets hope this knock back doesn't strengthen their Frawley compensation claims.

                    Mid first round is the likely compensation for Frawley.
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                    • Remi Moses
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 14785

                      #55
                      Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Lets hope this knock back doesn't strengthen their Frawley compensation claims.

                      Mid first round is the likely compensation for Frawley.
                      Hope you're right G.

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                      • divvydan
                        WOOF Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 1502

                        #56
                        Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        Lets hope this knock back doesn't strengthen their Frawley compensation claims.

                        Mid first round is the likely compensation for Frawley.
                        That would be nice but it's not one of the compensation options.

                        There are 5 bands for free agency compensation:
                        1. First round (after pick from ladder position)
                        2. End of first round
                        3. Second round
                        4. End of second round
                        5. Third round.

                        Dale Thomas was a similar age last year and he was worth a first round pick with an offer around $700/year for 4 years. (I've seen 600-750 quoted). Frawley would get the same band if he's offered the same or a similar amount.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 43890

                          #57
                          Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

                          Originally posted by divvydan
                          That would be nice but it's not one of the compensation options.

                          There are 5 bands for free agency compensation:
                          1. First round (after pick from ladder position)
                          2. End of first round
                          3. Second round
                          4. End of second round
                          5. Third round.

                          Dale Thomas was a similar age last year and he was worth a first round pick with an offer around $700/year for 4 years. (I've seen 600-750 quoted). Frawley would get the same band if he's offered the same or a similar amount.
                          I stand to be corrected but I believe it can be one of the options much like it was for the Goddard compensation. The committee can look at it and say 3rd pick in the draft is too early and end of the first round too late. It's at this point they can recommend to the AFL that a mid round pick is appropriate.
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                          • divvydan
                            WOOF Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 1502

                            #58
                            Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            I stand to be corrected but I believe it can be one of the options much like it was for the Goddard compensation. The committee can look at it and say 3rd pick in the draft is too early and end of the first round too late. It's at this point they can recommend to the AFL that a mid round pick is appropriate.
                            I'm only going on what the official regulations say. It is true that there is an option for a recommendation that is different if the "formula" results in a pick that is considered unfair, however, my understanding was that it can still only be changed to one of the other options mentioned above.

                            The Goddard compensation pick was #13 which was directly after their first round pick that year (#12) so he was a first round selection. St Kilda traded #12 for Lee, #24 and #45 which might have made it less clear.

                            Had a mid 1st round pick been an option, I would've expected Franklin to qualify for it last year.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #59
                              Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

                              Originally posted by divvydan
                              Had a mid 1st round pick been an option, I would've expected Franklin to qualify for it last year.
                              Very true. If they didn't step in and change the compensation for this deal, can't see it ever happening.

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                              • Ozza
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 6380

                                #60
                                Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

                                Originally posted by ledge
                                Why should they get one if they haven't got their development in order and stuff up another players career, that's probably the AFLs thinking.
                                As for us we should ask, we were given bugger all for Ward and have had to wear all the GWS and GC priority picks in front of us taking all the tall forwards and our development team has been up to standard.
                                I still don't understand this line of thinking. We got pick 6 for Ward....meaning we could secure Macrae after taking Stringer. I understand Melbourne got OVER-compensated for Scully - but pick 6 is certainly not bugger all - and was entirely appropriate compensation for Ward.

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