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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66773

    Re: Well Ruck Me.

    Originally posted by Mofra
    I'd still want at least one developing kid on the list as well.
    Sam Darcy?
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    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14965

      Re: Well Ruck Me.

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Sam Darcy?
      I'm not convinced he's a ruck/forward TBH.
      Some scouts prefer him as an intercepting KPD.
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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66773

        Re: Well Ruck Me.

        Originally posted by Mofra
        I'm not convinced he's a ruck/forward TBH.
        Some scouts prefer him as an intercepting KPD.
        That would be good
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        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 18034

          Re: Well Ruck Me.

          Originally posted by Mofra
          Well Ceglar plays an average of a dozen or so games, and Stef on a rookie list makes sense as a ruck coach if we have a young enough ruck on the list worth coaching and might play a few if his body is ok.

          I'd still want at least one developing kid on the list as well.
          Ceglar, Sweet, English and Martin as a rookie. That would just about be enough coverage wouldn’t it?
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          • Rocco Jones
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jun 2008
            • 6932

            Re: Well Ruck Me.

            Originally posted by comrade
            Ceglar, Sweet, English and Martin as a rookie. That would just about be enough coverage wouldn’t it?
            It would beat what we had this year.

            Ceglar- hopefully play 60%+ of games
            Stef- even if he can get through 25-30% of the games to cover + mentor would definitely be worth a spot
            Sweet- another year of maturing, hopefully at level where he is decent/enough for Bevo to trust
            English- not sure English ever gets there as a R1 but another year of development

            Just need Ceglar and Sweet to coordinate their injuries! Have Stef a bit like Mummy at GWS.

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            • The Pie Man
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2008
              • 3497

              Re: Well Ruck Me.

              Originally posted by Mofra
              Well Ceglar plays an average of a dozen or so games, and Stef on a rookie list makes sense as a ruck coach if we have a young enough ruck on the list worth coaching and might play a few if his body is ok.

              I'd still want at least one developing kid on the list as well.
              Agree with all that, just wondering what our reality is if we intend to give Stef another year and hope that Sweet stays.

              I think Ceglar would be a solid addition - if both were fit, I’d consider play him with Stef and let Chili fight it out with Ceglar for the 2nd ruck role
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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14965

                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                Originally posted by The Pie Man
                Agree with all that, just wondering what our reality is if we intend to give Stef another year and hope that Sweet stays.

                I think Ceglar would be a solid addition - if both were fit, I’d consider play him with Stef and let Chili fight it out with Ceglar for the 2nd ruck role
                I'm not sure English stays if he started getting pushed back to VFL level.
                I'm not convinced Martin can stay on the paddock. He had a bunch of issues this year and wasn't getting off the ground much in the GF.
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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6932

                  Re: Well Ruck Me.

                  I would not play Stef and Ceglar together. I'd nurse the one not play through. Try to have one ready to play each week. The other one can rest or play restricted minutes in the VFL (more for Stef, ramp up if Ceglar playing a lot).

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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13237

                    Re: Well Ruck Me.

                    Ceglar's a plodder and I don't like ruck's that have done an ACL. What he provides over English and Sweet and probably a 35 year old Martin is he knows his limitations and is good at halving contests. Getting Ceglar won't mean we win more games directly because we have him but it may help us to ensure that opposition rucks don't completely pull our pants down which has happened repeatedly over the past 3 years. At least Ceglar is ruckman size and can ruck.

                    Weren't Brisbane into him a few years ago?
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 11186

                      Re: Well Ruck Me.

                      Originally posted by 1eyedog
                      Ceglar's a plodder and I don't like ruck's that have done an ACL.
                      Like Gawn and Nic Nat?

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13237

                        Re: Well Ruck Me.

                        Originally posted by Axe Man
                        Like Gawn and Nic Nat?
                        Two freaks and in the best handful of players in the comp. All I'm saying is that I don't trust his body. I'd much prefer we target a younger ruckman with a shorter injury history.
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • The Pie Man
                          Coaching Staff
                          • May 2008
                          • 3497

                          Re: Well Ruck Me.

                          Originally posted by Mofra
                          I'm not sure English stays if he started getting pushed back to VFL level.
                          I'm not convinced Martin can stay on the paddock. He had a bunch of issues this year and wasn't getting off the ground much in the GF.
                          Agree, Tim would likely explore his options if he wasn’t getting games - in the scenario I present, it’s unlikely to be most weeks given the injury history of both of the older guys, so I’d expect Tim to play…still worth exploring though.

                          If Stef accepts the rookie / break glass in case of emergency role than I reckon Ceglar could be really good for us.
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                          • Axe Man
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 11186

                            Re: Well Ruck Me.

                            Originally posted by 1eyedog
                            Two freaks and in the best handful of players in the comp. All I'm saying is that I don't trust his body. I'd much prefer we target a younger ruckman with a shorter injury history.
                            I asked about Ceglar's injury history somewhere but not sure it was ever answered? I know he hasn't played full seasons but I was wondering if it was injury or selection related. I don't think he had too many injury worries this year, I think mostly he missed games due to Reeves being preferred at times.

                            A younger ruckman is good in theory but there aren't too many available, particularly at a cheap price and someone like Lynch is totally unproven and may be no better than Sweet.

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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14965

                              Re: Well Ruck Me.

                              Originally posted by Axe Man
                              A younger ruckman is good in theory but there aren't too many available, particularly at a cheap price and someone like Lynch is totally unproven and may be no better than Sweet.
                              Max Lynch played against Gawn, just as Sweet did. The results were vastly different.
                              Personally I think Lynch is a significant upgrade on Sweet and I'm perplexed at why we aren't even considering him, let alone going hard to get him across.
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                              • Axe Man
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 11186

                                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                                Originally posted by Mofra
                                Max Lynch played against Gawn, just as Sweet did. The results were vastly different.
                                Personally I think Lynch is a significant upgrade on Sweet and I'm perplexed at why we aren't even considering him, let alone going hard to get him across.
                                Tell me more, I've never heard that game discussed.

                                It's just too small a sample size, Lynch might be a player or he might not, I've got no clue about him. However he would be a bit of a swing and hope and I think our current premiership window dictates a different approach.

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