Well Ruck Me.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

Another way to look at it.

Here are the top 25 for hitouts. Who can we target.

2021 AFL League Hitouts Per Game Leaders (Minimum 5 Games Played)

Rank Player Team Games Hitouts for Last Game Average 1 Brodie Grundy Magpies 20 23 v Essendon, Round 23 32.40 2 Max Gawn Demons 22 39 v Geelong, Round 23 31.95 3 Nicholas Naitanui Eagles 22 53 v Brisbane, Round 23 31.09 4 Patrick Ryder Saints 12 27 v West Coast, Round 19 30.00 5 Todd Goldstein Kangaroos 22 41 v Adelaide, Round 23 29.64 6 Reilly O'Brien Crows 20 28 v Port Adelaide, Round 21 29.40 7 Marc Pittonet Blues 13 27 v GWS, Round 14 29.23 8 Oscar McInerney Lions 21 24 v West Coast, Round 23 28.62 9 Sean Darcy Dockers 21 16 v St Kilda, Round 23 28.52 10 Scott Lycett Power 18 40 v Western Bulldogs, Round 23 26.50 11 Ned Reeves Hawks 5 31 v Brisbane, Round 20 26.00 12 Shane Mumford Giants 12 28 v Richmond, Round 22 24.42 13 Tom Hickey Swans 20 24 v Gold Coast, Round 23 23.55 14 Sam Draper Bombers 12 20 v Collingwood, Round 23 22.58 15 Toby Nankervis Tigers 16 23 v GWS, Round 22 22.56 16 Zac Smith Suns 9 26 v Sydney, Round 23 21.22 17 Jonathon Ceglar Hawks 12 24 v Richmond, Round 23 20.92 18 Andrew Phillips Bombers 6 25 v Richmond, Round 12 20.67 19 Jordon Sweet Bulldogs 5 17 v Melbourne, Round 11 19.80 20 Rhys Stanley Cats 16 33 v Melbourne, Round 23 19.38 21 Matthew Flynn Giants 12 22 v Sydney, Round 18 18.50 22 Rowan Marshall Saints 13 13 v Fremantle, Round 23 18.46 23 Stefan Martin Bulldogs 7 8 v Fremantle, Round 12 17.57 24 Kieren Briggs Giants 5 26 v Carlton, Round 23 17.00 25 Ben McEvoy Hawks 22 13 v Richmond, Round 23 16.86

Who’s the most gettable on that list? Sweet?

[comrade]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

Another way to look at it.

Here are the top 25 for hitouts. Who can we target.

The guy at 19 might be worth a shot?

[Mantis]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

The guy at 19 might be worth a shot?

What about no.7?

[Bornadog]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

What about no.7?

Out of contract this year

[SquirrelGrip]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

Another way to look at it.

Here are the top 25 for hitouts. Who can we target.

2021 AFL League Hitouts Per Game Leaders (Minimum 5 Games Played)

Rank Player Team Games Hitouts for Last Game Average 1 Brodie Grundy Magpies 20 23 v Essendon, Round 23 32.40 2 Max Gawn Demons 22 39 v Geelong, Round 23 31.95 3 Nicholas Naitanui Eagles 22 53 v Brisbane, Round 23 31.09 4 Patrick Ryder Saints 12 27 v West Coast, Round 19 30.00 5 Todd Goldstein Kangaroos 22 41 v Adelaide, Round 23 29.64 6 Reilly O'Brien Crows 20 28 v Port Adelaide, Round 21 29.40 7 Marc Pittonet Blues 13 27 v GWS, Round 14 29.23 8 Oscar McInerney Lions 21 24 v West Coast, Round 23 28.62 9 Sean Darcy Dockers 21 16 v St Kilda, Round 23 28.52

I'd be going straight for number 1, as a deal could be done with the Pies.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

Isn’t the current issue more around a lack of viable options up forward, with Tim being our best bet there, rather than us completely giving up on Tim as a ruckman? Sure Tim has had some challenges this year, but he’s also played some good footy. He’s going to add the most value (probably) doing 30:70 ruck:forward. But. He would 100000000% be our starting ruck this weekend if Bruce hadn’t been injured.


Don’t mind the talk of Ladhams / Chol. Both could add to our mix.

I’m increasingly wondering whether Lew may actually be the answer though. Some of his knocks to space were a thing of beauty…. Just a lack of familiarity which is causing the lack of connection. May be good for him too, he’s capable jumping and seems OK in the tougher stuff when thrust upon him.

[Bornadog]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

Isn’t the current issue more around a lack of viable options up forward, with Tim being our best bet there, rather than us completely giving up on Tim as a ruckman? Sure Tim has had some challenges this year, but he’s also played some good footy. He’s going to add the most value (probably) doing 30:70 ruck:forward. But. He would 100000000% be our starting ruck this weekend if Bruce hadn’t been injured.


Don’t mind the talk of Ladhams / Chol. Both could add to our mix.

I’m increasingly wondering whether Lew may actually be the answer though. Some of his knocks to space were a thing of beauty…. Just a lack of familiarity which is causing the lack of connection. May be good for him too, he’s capable jumping and seems OK in the tougher stuff when thrust upon him.

I think Tim is seen as an excellent second ruck/fwd.

You has grown 4cm since being at the club and is 201cm, and as you say can jump. At this stage, I don't see him as the answer as number 1 ruck.

[1eyedog]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

Jay sus English not even on the list WTF are we doing?

[Mofra]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

Another way to look at it.

Here are the top 25 for hitouts. Who can we target.

2021 AFL League Hitouts Per Game Leaders (Minimum 5 Games Played)

Rank Player Team Games Hitouts for Last Game Average 1 Brodie Grundy Magpies 20 23 v Essendon, Round 23 32.40 2 Max Gawn Demons 22 39 v Geelong, Round 23 31.95 3 Nicholas Naitanui Eagles 22 53 v Brisbane, Round 23 31.09 4 Patrick Ryder Saints 12 27 v West Coast, Round 19 30.00 5 Todd Goldstein Kangaroos 22 41 v Adelaide, Round 23 29.64 6 Reilly O'Brien Crows 20 28 v Port Adelaide, Round 21 29.40 7 Marc Pittonet Blues 13 27 v GWS, Round 14 29.23 8 Oscar McInerney Lions 21 24 v West Coast, Round 23 28.62 9 Sean Darcy Dockers 21 16 v St Kilda, Round 23 28.52 10 Scott Lycett Power 18 40 v Western Bulldogs, Round 23 26.50 11 Ned Reeves Hawks 5 31 v Brisbane, Round 20 26.00 12 Shane Mumford Giants 12 28 v Richmond, Round 22 24.42 13 Tom Hickey Swans 20 24 v Gold Coast, Round 23 23.55 14 Sam Draper Bombers 12 20 v Collingwood, Round 23 22.58 15 Toby Nankervis Tigers 16 23 v GWS, Round 22 22.56 16 Zac Smith Suns 9 26 v Sydney, Round 23 21.22 17 Jonathon Ceglar Hawks 12 24 v Richmond, Round 23 20.92 18 Andrew Phillips Bombers 6 25 v Richmond, Round 12 20.67 19 Jordon Sweet Bulldogs 5 17 v Melbourne, Round 11 19.80 20 Rhys Stanley Cats 16 33 v Melbourne, Round 23 19.38 21 Matthew Flynn Giants 12 22 v Sydney, Round 18 18.50 22 Rowan Marshall Saints 13 13 v Fremantle, Round 23 18.46 23 Stefan Martin Bulldogs 7 8 v Fremantle, Round 12 17.57 24 Kieren Briggs Giants 5 26 v Carlton, Round 23 17.00 25 Ben McEvoy Hawks 22 13 v Richmond, Round 23 16.86

Plot twist - Nankervis.
Ivan Soldo comes back next year post ACL and CCJ stays at Richmond.

Ceglar would be gettable, Pittonet would be too but I don't think we'd consider him although he's at that age (25) where rucks can still improve.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

in 2016 we didn't have a perfect list. But we had the hunger and desire.
Tom Boyd, Roughy hacking away in the ruck. Neither were perfect. But we got there.

[Bornadog]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

in 2016 we didn't have a perfect list. But we had the hunger and desire.
Tom Boyd, Roughy hacking away in the ruck. Neither were perfect. But we got there.

Third man up masked some of Roughy's deficiencies in the ruck

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

Third man up masked some of Roughy's deficiencies in the ruck

Roughy I miss you mate.

The issue is our midfield is dropping away. That's really uncovering some deficiencies....
There have been plenty of times we got toasted in the ruck but it didn't affect us. Now it's a bit different.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

Jay sus English not even on the list WTF are we doing?

That's what I was looking for.

Looking at some of those names ON the list and the fact that English isn't even on it .... well, Tim, that's bloody awful.

[Bornadog]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

That's what I was looking for.

Looking at some of those names ON the list and the fact that English isn't even on it .... well, Tim, that's bloody awful.

26 to 50

26	Tom De Koning	Blues	13	32 v GWS, Round 23	16.85
27	Paul Hunter	Saints	7	16 v Fremantle, Round 23	16.00
28	Timothy English	Bulldogs	18	1 v Port Adelaide, Round 23	15.61
29	Lloyd Meek	Dockers	9	27 v St Kilda, Round 23	14.22
30	Peter Ladhams	Power	15	5 v Western Bulldogs, Round 23	13.40
31	Mark Blicavs	Cats	21	5 v Melbourne, Round 23	12.33
32	Mabior Chol	Tigers	10	4 v Hawthorn, Round 23	12.30
33	Tom Campbell	Kangaroos	9	7 v Richmond, Round 21	10.78
34	Luke Jackson	Demons	21	7 v Geelong, Round 23	10.24
35	Nathan Vardy	Eagles	9	7 v Brisbane, Round 23	10.22
36	Peter Wright	Bombers	20	3 v Collingwood, Round 23	9.80
37	Chris Burgess	Suns	19	9 v Sydney, Round 23	9.32
38	Bailey Williams	Eagles	6	8 v Adelaide, Round 18	8.33
39	Joel Amartey	Swans	6	13 v GWS, Round 18	8.17
40	Sam Reid	Swans	10	2 v North Melbourne, Round 22	7.70
41	Callum Coleman-Jones	Tigers	8	12 v Hawthorn, Round 23	7.62
42	Tristan Xerri	Kangaroos	8	8 v Geelong, Round 20	7.38
43	Caleb Graham	Suns	12	7 v Brisbane, Round 19	6.83
44	Darcy Cameron	Magpies	18	4 v Essendon, Round 23	6.72
45	Esava Ratugolea	Cats	13	6 v St Kilda, Round 22	6.54
46	Lewis Young	Bulldogs	7	13 v Port Adelaide, Round 23	6.29
47	Levi Casboult	Blues	13	10 v GWS, Round 23	6.08
48	Charlie Dixon	Power	22	6 v Western Bulldogs, Round 23	4.27
49	Rory Lobb	Dockers	13	0 v Geelong, Round 18	4.15

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

26 to 50

26	Tom De Koning	Blues	13	32 v GWS, Round 23	16.85
27	Paul Hunter	Saints	7	16 v Fremantle, Round 23	16.00
28	Timothy English	Bulldogs	18	1 v Port Adelaide, Round 23	15.61
29	Lloyd Meek	Dockers	9	27 v St Kilda, Round 23	14.22
30	Peter Ladhams	Power	15	5 v Western Bulldogs, Round 23	13.40
31	Mark Blicavs	Cats	21	5 v Melbourne, Round 23	12.33
32	Mabior Chol	Tigers	10	4 v Hawthorn, Round 23	12.30
33	Tom Campbell	Kangaroos	9	7 v Richmond, Round 21	10.78
34	Luke Jackson	Demons	21	7 v Geelong, Round 23	10.24
35	Nathan Vardy	Eagles	9	7 v Brisbane, Round 23	10.22
36	Peter Wright	Bombers	20	3 v Collingwood, Round 23	9.80
37	Chris Burgess	Suns	19	9 v Sydney, Round 23	9.32
38	Bailey Williams	Eagles	6	8 v Adelaide, Round 18	8.33
39	Joel Amartey	Swans	6	13 v GWS, Round 18	8.17
40	Sam Reid	Swans	10	2 v North Melbourne, Round 22	7.70
41	Callum Coleman-Jones	Tigers	8	12 v Hawthorn, Round 23	7.62
42	Tristan Xerri	Kangaroos	8	8 v Geelong, Round 20	7.38
43	Caleb Graham	Suns	12	7 v Brisbane, Round 19	6.83
44	Darcy Cameron	Magpies	18	4 v Essendon, Round 23	6.72
45	Esava Ratugolea	Cats	13	6 v St Kilda, Round 22	6.54
46	Lewis Young	Bulldogs	7	13 v Port Adelaide, Round 23	6.29
47	Levi Casboult	Blues	13	10 v GWS, Round 23	6.08
48	Charlie Dixon	Power	22	6 v Western Bulldogs, Round 23	4.27
49	Rory Lobb	Dockers	13	0 v Geelong, Round 18	4.15

The fact that English is just about the only 'main ruck' on this list is deeply concerning.

Probably also says Ladhams isn't what we need.