Well Ruck Me.

[Vred]

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Ladhams might be a target, at least, that's who I'd be going after.

[macca]

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Mason Cox vs Port Adelaide
A bit over 3 Quarters, coming on as sub

Goals 1
Behinds 1
Kicks 2
Handballs 3
Marks 1
Goal Assists 0
I50’s 0
Tackles 0
Hit Outs 0
Pressure Acts 1
Metres Gained 26m
Salary $550,000

His type of player that is hurting their salary cap. They traded out Treloar, Stephenson and Langdon and kept him ? Crazy....

[soupman]

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His type of player that is hurting their salary cap. They traded out Treloar, Stephenson and Langdon and kept him ? Crazy....

Much easier to trade out guys on high salaries if others actually want them. Who would want to put Mason Cox on their list and help out Collingwood in the process? You'd have to give up a draft pick as well to make it worthwhile.

[Bornadog]

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Much easier to trade out guys on high salaries if others actually want them. Who would want to put Mason Cox on their list and help out Collingwood in the process? You'd have to give up a draft pick as well to make it worthwhile.

Cox finishes his contract this year. Should have been last year but he had a trigger to go another year

[Happy Days]

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Meek playing for Freo today, looks really good so far. Really hope we have him in mind.

[The Pie Man]

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Are we getting more comfortable with Big Chilli as the number 1?

Good game last night - yes, he lost the HO count badly and conceded some clean possession to Gawn out of the centre, but I noticed Tim started to not jump at centre bounce late in the game which was far more effective than just bouncing off him on the way down. Crucial moments in the game

We also won clearances

[1eyedog]

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Should call him the big cheese rather than big chilli. He's slowly maturing with age. Long way to go.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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English was good, he is a GOOD player, but his ruck craft is below average. I sure as hell don't want to go into a final v Gawn with only English if we can help it, especially with Gawn's ability to grab it / spike it forward. Finals is as much about territory as anything and that's a big advantage for them.

English is getting better, but I still don't think he'll ever be a true #1 ruck.

[dog town]

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English was good, he is a GOOD player, but his ruck craft is below average. I sure as hell don't want to go into a final v Gawn with only English if we can help it, especially with Gawn's ability to grab it / spike it forward. Finals is as much about territory as anything and that's a big advantage for them.

English is getting better, but I still don't think he'll ever be a true #1 ruck.

I agree, I’m generally not concerned by conceding taps but I don’t think we want to be that reactive in a final. Unfortunately the only solution is dependent on Martin and his body.

Having said all that we may not come up against Gawn again.

[bulldogtragic]

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English was good, he is a GOOD player, but his ruck craft is below average. I sure as hell don't want to go into a final v Gawn with only English if we can help it, especially with Gawn's ability to grab it / spike it forward. Finals is as much about territory as anything and that's a big advantage for them.

English is getting better, but I still don't think he'll ever be a true #1 ruck.

He could easily be THE best second ruck/forward and floating defence in the comp. I have no doubt he can be the best in the role. So if we find a good no 1 ruckman who is really versatile enough too who can match or beat Timmys output, then our best 23 gets even better. It’s such an opportunity for us to improve our best 22 yet again. Some like Ladhams can match what Tim does or better, but is a forward threat too. It’s the overall improvement to the team and one which I hope is the top priority. It could be a as game changer trade if we can get a good one.

[The Pie Man]

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English was good, he is a GOOD player, but his ruck craft is below average. I sure as hell don't want to go into a final v Gawn with only English if we can help it, especially with Gawn's ability to grab it / spike it forward. Finals is as much about territory as anything and that's a big advantage for them.

English is getting better, but I still don't think he'll ever be a true #1 ruck.

His change (not jumping) in approach late in the game was very important to us winning possession out of the middle, very small sample size but I felt he might’ve turned a corner centre bounce wise against stronger opponents. He’ll still be able to leap against guys like Stanley. Is he figuring it out?

He’s always been decent around the ground, but he’s been very good lately.

[The Doctor]

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We should use Cody Weightman against Gawn!

[Mofra]

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I still think English will be vying with Luke Jackson as the best forward/ruck in the comp if we had the personnel to play him there.
If we did pick up someone like CCJ from Richmond it would be closer to a 50/50 split for both players. Richmond fans think he's on the table due to opportunity.

One more note about Max Lynch from Collingwood - he in their top 5 for the time trial every year which is incredible for a ruck.

[Bulldog Joe]

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I still think English will be vying with Luke Jackson as the best forward/ruck in the comp if we had the personnel to play him there.
If we did pick up someone like CCJ from Richmond it would be closer to a 50/50 split for both players. Richmond fans think he's on the table due to opportunity.

One more note about Max Lynch from Collingwood - he in their top 5 for the time trial every year which is incredible for a ruck.

While there is plenty to like about English as a forward, we also need to consider the overall list.

As the season has progressed I feel English has improved his ruck output, although he is unlikely to become hitout dominant, he does give some really good advantage taps from time to time.

The other issue is fitting everyone else in.

Currently we have Naughton, JUH and Bruce as tall forwards and we expect to fit Sam Darcy into the side somewhere through the next 2 to 3 seasons. This surely limits the spots to play English as a regular forward.

The next 2 months might see a more definitive position develop as we assess Josh Schache as a defensive player covering opposition talls/ruck forwards.

[Mofra]

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While there is plenty to like about English as a forward, we also need to consider the overall list.

As the season has progressed I feel English has improved his ruck output, although he is unlikely to become hitout dominant, he does give some really good advantage taps from time to time.

The other issue is fitting everyone else in.

Currently we have Naughton, JUH and Bruce as tall forwards and we expect to fit Sam Darcy into the side somewhere through the next 2 to 3 seasons. This surely limits the spots to play English as a regular forward.

The next 2 months might see a more definitive position develop as we assess Josh Schache as a defensive player covering opposition talls/ruck forwards.

JUH and Naughton are seriously quick so there's no issue having them forward with other talls.
Darcy may not even debut by the time Josh Bruce's contract is up and may not even play forward (plays CHB at Oakleigh).

We're replacing a McNeill/Scott with JUH (after another pre-season) in our early-year set-up if we keep English (or another ruck) forward. I think it could work.