Well Ruck Me.

[Bornadog]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

Have some fun mate......Body shame him!!!!

In honesty, someone of that size he's about five to six over. BAD only needs 2-3 to shame him.

He is a big boy, but a bloody good ruckman

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

My love letter/post to Bevo:

Get rid of the idea of rucks. Looking at Darcy, play him in defence.

Now just have a 205cm+ defender, forward and a mid to contest ruck contests.

Darcy in the back 50, Lobb in the forward 50 (Croft when he retires), English as a midfielder who goes where he thinks he’s most needed.

Don’t play rucks anymore. Don’t recruit 1st ruck workhorse types. Just get them to contest and move back into their roles. I’ve come around after seeing Darcy yesterday. He can take a few contests a quarter. Play English as a ruck/rover with the freedom to set up where he thinks he’s needed/can do the most damage.

Time to change the paradigm.

[ledge]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

My love letter/post to Bevo:

Get rid of the idea of rucks. Looking at Darcy, play him in defence.

Now just have a 205cm+ defender, forward and a mid to contest ruck contests.

Darcy in the back 50, Lobb in the forward 50 (Croft when he retires), English as a midfielder who goes where he thinks he’s most needed.

Don’t play rucks anymore. Don’t recruit 1st ruck workhorse types. Just get them to contest and move back into their roles. I’ve come around after seeing Darcy yesterday. He can take a few contests a quarter. Play English as a ruck/rover with the freedom to set up where he thinks he’s needed/can do the most damage.

Time to change the paradigm.

I am a massive fan on DArcy , once he builds his body he could be anything . Looking at the photos he is tracking well.
We have been blessed we have time to build these kids eg Jamarra and no doubt Croft .

[Bornadog]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

My love letter/post to Bevo:

Get rid of the idea of rucks. Looking at Darcy, play him in defence.

Now just have a 205cm+ defender, forward and a mid to contest ruck contests.

Darcy in the back 50, Lobb in the forward 50 (Croft when he retires), English as a midfielder who goes where he thinks he’s most needed.

Don’t play rucks anymore. Don’t recruit 1st ruck workhorse types. Just get them to contest and move back into their roles. I’ve come around after seeing Darcy yesterday. He can take a few contests a quarter. Play English as a ruck/rover with the freedom to set up where he thinks he’s needed/can do the most damage.

Time to change the paradigm.

I agree with this - it is the way forward

[Testekill]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

The good thing is that we're in a great position to have a capable ruck in each section of the ground; Lobb (Darcy once he retires), English, Darcy (Croft once Darcy moves forward and he develops). Hopefully we get in Mitch's ear about taking another year away from football next year and then sign him as a cat B rookie as he's another athletic tall who could play ruck.

[josie]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

My love letter/post to Bevo:

Get rid of the idea of rucks. Looking at Darcy, play him in defence.

Now just have a 205cm+ defender, forward and a mid to contest ruck contests.

Darcy in the back 50, Lobb in the forward 50 (Croft when he retires), English as a midfielder who goes where he thinks he’s most needed.

Don’t play rucks anymore. Don’t recruit 1st ruck workhorse types. Just get them to contest and move back into their roles. I’ve come around after seeing Darcy yesterday. He can take a few contests a quarter. Play English as a ruck/rover with the freedom to set up where he thinks he’s needed/can do the most damage.

Time to change the paradigm.

At min it’s worth a try. I can see Bevo thinking of it and trialling it.

[mjp]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

My love letter/post to Bevo:

Get rid of the idea of rucks. Looking at Darcy, play him in defence.

Now just have a 205cm+ defender, forward and a mid to contest ruck contests.

Darcy in the back 50, Lobb in the forward 50 (Croft when he retires), English as a midfielder who goes where he thinks he’s most needed.

Don’t play rucks anymore. Don’t recruit 1st ruck workhorse types. Just get them to contest and move back into their roles. I’ve come around after seeing Darcy yesterday. He can take a few contests a quarter. Play English as a ruck/rover with the freedom to set up where he thinks he’s needed/can do the most damage.

Time to change the paradigm.

LOL. I don't think you need to send this to Bevo...he's already been doing it...

It just so happens that now he has some taller blokes around the ground to take a turn.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

So Tim gets injured.

Our new great hope at CHB gets bashed up, in a heart and soul effort.
Our new great hope at FF kicks 7.
Smith is a pup.

Do we finally look at that depth mature ruckman to leave Lobb back and Darcy forward if Tim gets injured?

[GVGjr]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

So Tim gets injured.

Our new great hope at CHB gets bashed up, in a heart and soul effort.
Our new great hope at FF kicks 7.
Smith is a pup.

Do we finally look at that depth mature ruckman to leave Lobb back and Darcy forward if Tim gets injured?

We probably needed to add an experienced or ready to type ruckman in case of an emergency at the MSD for this type of scenario.
We rolled the dice with our ruck set-up so lets hope for a speedy return from English and that Lobb gets a good course of physio this week and that gets him fit enough.

[ledge]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

We probably needed to add an experienced or ready to type ruckman in case of an emergency at the MSD for this type of scenario.
We rolled the dice with our ruck set-up so lets hope for a speedy return from English and that Lobb gets a good course of physio this week and that gets him fit enough.

Khamis is our back up ruck, problem solved.

[Bornadog]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

We probably needed to add an experienced or ready to type ruckman in case of an emergency at the MSD for this type of scenario.
We rolled the dice with our ruck set-up so lets hope for a speedy return from English and that Lobb gets a good course of physio this week and that gets him fit enough.

If Lobb wasn't moved to the backline, with success, then we had our mature backup

[GVGjr]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

If Lobb wasn't moved to the backline, with success, then we had our mature backup

Not really, going into the season Lobb was originally going to be our 3rd tall forward.
We've gone in light by design and today was a great advertisement for why Darcy needs to be a forward rather than thrown into long and grinding periods in the ruck.
English, Lobb and Darcy with Smith not even close to being ready meant that we were one option light on which is okay if things went really well but we can't now use it as an excuse.
Tim was in rehab for the majority of the preseason under concussion management. Lobb has never really rucked a full season and Darcy wasn't ready for a full time ruck gig either. We took a chance and it still might work but we could have also addressed it.

[mighty_west]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

We really should have an experienced ruck option for the break glass option imo, now with Timmy signed up more than happy to bring back Tommy Campbell or someone like that who can come in and do a job when required.

[GVGjr]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

We really should have an experienced ruck option for the break glass option imo, now with Timmy signed up more than happy to bring back Tommy Campbell or someone like that who can come in and do a job when required.

Just someone capable of filling in for 3 or 4 weeks if necessary would have been fine.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Well Ruck Me.

So…

Croft started as a junior in defence. Then went forward. He clearly is very athletically talented and skilled at either end. Milesi in the club video after drafting him talked about how he liked playing with aggression and plays with ‘the red mist’. At 201cm do we look at him as a ruckman?

If we need a big agro guy in the ruck I’d prefer it not to be Naughton. I’d prefer to keep Darcy forward as he could be generational up forward. The conversation with Croft has been is he a defender or forward. Owing to not having a ruckman with presence or aggression, do we look at Croft next year (with a preseason) as a ruckman who understands the roles of floating into defence or getting into dangerous positions forward?