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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Re: List Management 2015

    Originally posted by Greystache
    Kelly BT?
    That'd be him

    You can see the obvious impact he's had on my memory of him
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      Re: List Management 2015

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Outs:

      ML: Grant (wing), Cordy (project ruck), Fuller (injured), Darley (HBF), Talia (CHB)
      RL: Goodes (HBF and experience), Pearce (HBF), Other dude (CHB)

      Ins:

      ML: Suckling (wing), Dunkley (big mid), Collins (full back), Adams (CHB), Williams (HBF)
      RL: Goetz (project ruck), Lynch (HBF), Adcock (HBF and experience)

      Player for Player:

      Suckling for Grant
      Collins for Talia
      Williams for Fuller
      Adams for Cordy (project ruck on rookie list though - where they should be)
      Dunkley for Darley


      Goetz for Other dude (extra defender on main list)
      Adcock for Goodes
      Lynch for Pearce


      Got to say I think we are ahead on every single list decision. Not often you can say that. Big, big, big tick for me.
      You must have a seriously strong opinion of Suckling BT

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34316

        Re: List Management 2015

        Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
        You must have a seriously strong opinion of Suckling BT
        I'm in a transition phase weening off Jarrad. It's clear the club didn't rate him and Bevo is expecting Suckling to make an impact for us next year. On that basis, that puts us ahead on the basis the delisting and free agency pursuit were both voluntary by the club. My guess is he will be a bit more up the ground than he was at Hawthorn.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          Re: List Management 2015

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          I'm in a transition phase weening off Jarrad. It's clear the club didn't rate him and Bevo is expecting Suckling to make an impact for us next year. On that basis, that puts us ahead on the basis the delisting and free agency pursuit were both voluntary by the club. My guess is he will be a bit more up the ground than he was at Hawthorn.
          One day at a time, you'll get there.

          I'm curious to see how Suckling goes, to me his best value is when he can find time and space behind the ball, but Bevo does have a way of redefining what a bloke can offer.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: List Management 2015

            Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
            One day at a time, you'll get there.

            I'm curious to see how Suckling goes, to me his best value is when he can find time and space behind the ball, but Bevo does have a way of redefining what a bloke can offer.
            Thanks PP. Grief is a process.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              Re: List Management 2015

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Thanks PP. Grief is a process.
              The first step is acknowledging your loss. You'll be ok, there are plenty of Jarrad's in the ocean.

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              • comrade
                Hall of Fame
                • Jun 2008
                • 17943

                Re: List Management 2015

                Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                The first step is acknowledging your loss. You'll be ok, there are plenty of Jarrad's in the ocean.
                Scott Clayton will pass them as he swims to Williamstown.
                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                • The Underdog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6816

                  Re: List Management 2015

                  The list certainly feels like it has a better balance to it. There's still plenty of inexperience in the key positions, although with plenty of potential. It's still a bit concerning how much still hinges on the development of T. Boyd and the ability of Minson / Campbell to stay fit and have an impact in the ruck. We're still not overly quick but if we move the ball the way we did through much of 2015 that doesn't seem to be an issue, at least until we get onto a bigger ground.
                  Considering the bizarre work of the match committee in 2015, the list management decisions seem to have been incredibly straight forward and sensible.
                  Now we just need a full season of Koby
                  Park that car
                  Drop that phone
                  Sleep on the floor
                  Dream about me

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                  • Bulldog4life
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 9607

                    Re: List Management 2015

                    Originally posted by The Underdog
                    The list certainly feels like it has a better balance to it. There's still plenty of inexperience in the key positions, although with plenty of potential. It's still a bit concerning how much still hinges on the development of T. Boyd and the ability of Minson / Campbell to stay fit and have an impact in the ruck. We're still not overly quick but if we move the ball the way we did through much of 2015 that doesn't seem to be an issue, at least until we get onto a bigger ground.
                    Considering the bizarre work of the match committee in 2015, the list management decisions seem to have been incredibly straight forward and sensible.

                    Now we just need a full season of Koby

                    As I said in another thread, on Wed. night Bevo said that Roughy will be training to play in the ruck and forward next season. That could change of course.

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                    • The Underdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6816

                      Re: List Management 2015

                      Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                      As I said in another thread, on Wed. night Bevo said that Roughy will be training to play in the ruck and forward next season. That could change of course.
                      Forgot about Roughy although health isn't a skill he's mastered yet. Could end up first choice though.
                      Park that car
                      Drop that phone
                      Sleep on the floor
                      Dream about me

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27654

                        Re: List Management 2015

                        It depends on what sort of position the ruck evolves into next season. It keeps changing.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Ghost Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 9404

                          Re: List Management 2015

                          Originally posted by The Underdog
                          The list certainly feels like it has a better balance to it. There's still plenty of inexperience in the key positions, although with plenty of potential. It's still a bit concerning how much still hinges on the development of T. Boyd and the ability of Minson / Campbell to stay fit and have an impact in the ruck. We're still not overly quick but if we move the ball the way we did through much of 2015 that doesn't seem to be an issue, at least until we get onto a bigger ground.
                          Considering the bizarre work of the match committee in 2015, the list management decisions seem to have been incredibly straight forward and sensible.
                          Now we just need a full season of Koby
                          I'm curious as to why you think so. We have Redpath, Collins who could easily play forward, and Stringer. If we didn't have Tom Boyd presently I would still fell confident in our list. He is not going to be the superman who saves us. He's only there to play one role, an important one but not irreplaceable.
                          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            Re: List Management 2015

                            Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                            As I said in another thread, on Wed. night Bevo said that Roughy will be training to play in the ruck and forward next season. That could change of course.
                            He also kept bringing up Kobys name. I feel he's a coaches favourite or that was my take listening to Bevo,
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • The Underdog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6816

                              Re: List Management 2015

                              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                              I'm curious as to why you think so. We have Redpath, Collins who could easily play forward, and Stringer. If we didn't have Tom Boyd presently I would still fell confident in our list. He is not going to be the superman who saves us. He's only there to play one role, an important one but not irreplaceable.
                              I've come around a bit on Redpath but let's say I'm far from a believer and I don't think he has the size you need in a backup ruckman. Collins is 3 days from being drafted. Maybe we should let him do a couple of training sessions before we pencil him in. Stringer and Boyd aren't playing the same role. Both would benefit from the other. Boyd is the wagon we've hitched our long term key forward plans to and he needs to be that guy. We can be successful without him but if he can be the guy we paid for then we can be great.
                              If he can't overtake Redpath then it'll be a pretty poor result
                              Park that car
                              Drop that phone
                              Sleep on the floor
                              Dream about me

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                              • Bulldog4life
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 9607

                                Re: List Management 2015

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                He also kept bringing up Kobys name. I feel he's a coaches favourite or that was my take listening to Bevo,
                                Were you in the 5.30pm group or 6.30pm listening to Bevo BT?

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