List Management 2015

[Twodogs]

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Why post when you can just quote others who say it perfectly?

To add to this, I think premiership player standard is a bit of a myth too. Great sides can also fill out their sides with moneyball type recruiters. Players who aren't world beaters but cheap and make the 22 / depth slightly better.

He could be our Stuart Dew.

[Remi Moses]

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He's a bit meh! For me
Rookie spot only

[boydogs]

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We have to remember our rookie list is effectively only 3 players next year with Roarke Smith likely to miss most of the season.

We probably can't afford to have 3 speculative long term prospects take up those rookie spots. We will need at least one ready to go player that we can call upon if needed. Adcock fits that bill. He would be a Brett Goodes replacement.

I see it the other way, carrying Roarke Smith means the Mark Austin/Brett Goodes spot for a mature rookie is in doubt

[soupman]

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I'd be happy with him as a rookie. He would be one of the few experienced players on our list, has been a captain before so would provide leadership and another older head, and is versatile so could contribute in a variety of positions and roles. You could also consider that at 29 he probably has 2-4 years left in him so as Boyd, Morris and Murphy retire in that time he could step in as that older role model.

As for keeping youth out of the seniors, if he justifies selection ahead of them then that's can only be a good thing as it will push them to earn their spot. Sure AFL gametime might be slightly more valuable, but players like Jong, Roberts and Dickson have shown that being stuck for a prolonged period in the VFL with Footscray doesn't mean you cannot develop.

And as others have said he is a big upgrade on Brett Goodes in a very similar role, and there were certainly times this year where we needed the experienced body of Goodes in the side.

[lemmon]

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Agree with the sentiment that he'd be a good addition. Realistically this year Dale and Webb in particular faded significantly towards the back end of the season and probably shouldn't have been playing senior football as late in the year as they were. Whether it will help them in the long term I'm not sure but Adcock would add a hardened body when the season starts to wear and tear on the young guys

[Twodogs]

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What's Adcock's injury record like?

[soupman]

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What's Adcock's injury record like?

In his entire career he has only had four seasons where he hasn't played over 20 games, including a 2 games debut season. Played at least 20 games in each of the last 5 years. I would suggest pretty good.

[Mofra]

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The other thing we have to consider is Matthew Boyd - wasn't there some stat that says we lost 100% of the games he missed this year?
If Boyd has one year left and Adcock has 3, surely adding a former AFL captain tot he back half to direct our zone/webb (as we did with Boyd in 2015) will help us?
We have one of the youngest list profiles in the AFL and Suckling only replaces Grant so there's not much lost/gained by his signing in that regard, so I'd expect Adcock to be more valuable than the 3rd round rookie selection we take.
Pretty sure our best rookie selections have been 1st & 2nd round rookie picks anyway.

[Avoid the rush]

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Ex captain tick......../can play tick......../originally from BALLARAT tick........./fit tick....../hard at it tick.... /no brainer!!!!

[Greystache]

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He could be our Stuart Dew.

He'd need to put on 40kgs first... None of it in the gym!

[Mofra]

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He'd need to put on 40kgs first... None of it in the gym!

Instant boost to Barkers café profits.

[Greystache]

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We'll never have our ideal best 22 on the park at the same time. Injuries and form fluctuations are simply a given.

It is a myth that players can't "develop" playing VFL/Foootscray. We can't gift games to players simply because they are young. They need to play the right way and earn their spot, particularly given the healthy state of our list, and there's nothing wrong with that and friendly competition to elevate one another's performance.

Adcock for a rookie list spot would be great cover. A hungry, quality, versatile and experienced player who can provide good leadership for our young players, challenge them, and also potentially contribute to making us a better side.

Totally agree TBB.

It's not an unreasonable possibility that Murphy gets injured, M Boyd has gone one year too long, and in their absence Biggs and Webb can't make the step up required. All of a sudden our rebounding defence looks horribly inexperienced and a real weakness. A player like Adcock would be an asset.

Everything going well he isn't needed and plays mostly VFL footy next year. I don't doubt the younger players at Footscray would benefit greatly from having a leader with his experience in the team. Similarly to what Jordan Russell has brought to the club.

I'm not passionate about getting Adcock, but I can see the upside if we do it.

[Twodogs]

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He'd need to put on 40kgs first... None of it in the gym!

Strap a couple of wheat bags to him on grand final day. Or a Jockey. Some of them are pretty light.

[Ozza]

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Totally agree TBB.

It's not an unreasonable possibility that Murphy gets injured, M Boyd has gone one year too long, and in their absence Biggs and Webb can't make the step up required. All of a sudden our rebounding defence looks horribly inexperienced and a real weakness. A player like Adcock would be an asset.

Everything going well he isn't needed and plays mostly VFL footy next year. I don't doubt the younger players at Footscray would benefit greatly from having a leader with his experience in the team. Similarly to what Jordan Russell has brought to the club.

I'm not passionate about getting Adcock, but I can see the upside if we do it.

I'm of a similar view to the above, particularly the bolded part.

Adcock has been captain of a footy club, and playing wise- apart from the last year or so where he was made to play as a forward (probably due to the circumstances of the club playing list at the time) he has always been a good, versatile AFL player.

[LostDoggy]

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http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2015-11-23/adcock-to-train-with-dogs

Looks a done deal.