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  • Dry Rot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6440

    Re: List Management 2015

    The ruck situation is getting murky.

    Luenburger is linked to other clubs, and Kruezner tipped to stay at Carlton (foot). And if LB leaves the Lions, you'd think they'd hang onto Martin, who is under contract.
    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27654

      Re: List Management 2015

      Originally posted by Dry Rot
      The ruck situation is getting murky.

      Luenburger is linked to other clubs, and Kruezner tipped to stay at Carlton (foot). And if LB leaves the Lions, you'd think they'd hang onto Martin, who is under contract.
      Lots of nature agers around in state leagues who could come come in and pkay a role. I reckon Jmac will know each one. Lots of other clubs have guts ready to go waiting for a chance. We will find a ruckman more in tune with our game style. Kruezer and Luenberger, as good as both are, were big risks to chance our future on. Too much risk for the reward on offer with those two and their injury history.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • divvydan
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 1502

        Re: List Management 2015

        Looks very likely that Martin will stay. Seems his g/f wanted to move back to Melbourne for acting jobs but he's happy up there and they've sorted something out.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          Re: List Management 2015

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          Lots of nature agers around in state leagues who could come come in and pkay a role. I reckon Jmac will know each one. Lots of other clubs have guts ready to go waiting for a chance. We will find a ruckman more in tune with our game style. Kruezer and Luenberger, as good as both are, were big risks to chance our future on. Too much risk for the reward on offer with those two and their injury history.
          Agree. There are also project Ruckmen on AFL lists our List Managers will be all over. Players like Scott Lycett, Luke Lowden and Daniel Currie are all in that 24-26 age, have done multiple AFL preseasons and are just starved of opportunity due to the specialist nature of the Ruckman (behind NicNat, Jacobs, Goldy respectively). If one of these are suitable types for us, we'll be pouncing, Biggs or Hamling style, with no fanfare and little expense.

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          • boydogs
            WOOF Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 5842

            Re: List Management 2015

            Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
            If one of these are suitable types for us, we'll be pouncing, Biggs or Hamling style, with no fanfare and little expense.
            It's happened quite a few times already, guys moving clubs for opportunity and becoming successful #1 rucks. Jacobs, Martin, Mumford & Maric are all top 10 rucks
            If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

            Formerly gogriff

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              Re: List Management 2015

              Here's a 3 way trade I reckon could work:

              We need a Ruckman, WCE have 3 AFL quality ruckmen.
              WCE play at Subiaco and can always use a quality linebreaker.
              Jetta is a WA local rumoured to be keen to go home.
              Talia is apparently expendable to us and has been linked to Sydney.
              Sydney is under cap pressure and needs draft picks to facilitate academy process.

              How about:

              WCE trade Lycett to us and 2nd Round pick to Sydney
              We trade Talia to Sydney
              Sydney trade Jetta to WCE

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              • Rocco Jones
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jun 2008
                • 6924

                Re: List Management 2015

                Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                Here's a 3 way trade I reckon could work:

                We need a Ruckman, WCE have 3 AFL quality ruckmen.
                WCE play at Subiaco and can always use a quality linebreaker.
                Jetta is a WA local rumoured to be keen to go home.
                Talia is apparently expendable to us and has been linked to Sydney.
                Sydney is under cap pressure and needs draft picks to facilitate academy process.

                How about:

                WCE trade Lycett to us and 2nd Round pick to Sydney
                We trade Talia to Sydney
                Sydney trade Jetta to WCE
                I am normally not a fan of hypothetical trades, I actually find them inane but this one actually seems logical!

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                • hujsh
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 11852

                  Re: List Management 2015

                  Is Jetta worth Lycett and a 2nd round pick? Seems like his stock has dropped the last few years.

                  Maybe depends how WCE rate Lycett

                  Likewise how happy would Sydney be losing Jetta for Talia and a late 2nd round pick?

                  Does meet a lot of needs but I wonder if the value adds up.
                  [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                  • Rocco Jones
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 6924

                    Re: List Management 2015

                    Originally posted by hujsh
                    Is Jetta worth Lycett and a 2nd round pick? Seems like his stock has dropped the last few years.

                    Maybe depends how WCE rate Lycett

                    Likewise how happy would Sydney be losing Jetta for Talia and a late 2nd round pick?

                    Does meet a lot of needs but I wonder if the value adds up.
                    Jetta has had his career best season IMO. I do agree we probably have to give a bit more though.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      Re: List Management 2015

                      Originally posted by hujsh
                      Is Jetta worth Lycett and a 2nd round pick? Seems like his stock has dropped the last few years.

                      Maybe depends how WCE rate Lycett

                      Likewise how happy would Sydney be losing Jetta for Talia and a late 2nd round pick?

                      Does meet a lot of needs but I wonder if the value adds up.
                      So on the one hand, Talia & 2nd pick for Jetta is too little, but on other hand Jetta for Lycett and 2nd is too much??

                      Can't see both applying.

                      Either way draft pick swaps can be negotiated to smooth out perceived value.

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                      • hujsh
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11852

                        Re: List Management 2015

                        Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                        So on the one hand, Talia & 2nd pick for Jetta is too little, but on other hand Jetta for Lycett and 2nd is too much??

                        Can't see both applying.

                        Either way draft pick swaps can be negotiated to smooth out perceived value.
                        I don't actually know. My knowledge of those two mainly stems from what I've read on woof.

                        It's possible Sydney rate Jetta highly and would expect generous compensation for a premiership player but I've read here about his disappearing acts during finals and that he's not recaptured that initial form.

                        Similarly a good young tall can be worth quite a bit and I can see a club being hesitant to let one go even if surplus to needs
                        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                        • Webby
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 1880

                          Re: List Management 2015

                          Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
                          Dangerfield is a surfer. He loves surfing and he wants to be near the sea. FACT.

                          The difference between living / playing in Geelong or Melbourne is actually massive in this case.

                          If he plays for Geelong he can live in Torquay. Get up for an early surf. 10 minutes to the water. 10 minutes back and a 20 minute drive in to Kardinia park. If you live in Melbourne, it's a 3 hr round trip just to get to the surf and back and that's not counting any time in the water. Forget it. If he moves, he moves to Geelong.

                          END OF STORY.
                          Just one more on this "fact, end of story" stuff, i recall 2 years back that it was a fact, end of story that Buddy Franklin was headed to GWS, DD!

                          When a player's a AAA++ I don't think it's necessarily over til it's over.

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                          • SlimPickens
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 2929

                            Re: List Management 2015

                            Originally posted by Webby
                            Just one more on this "fact, end of story" stuff, i recall 2 years back that it was a fact, end of story that Buddy Franklin was headed to GWS, DD!

                            When a player's a AAA++ I don't think it's necessarily over til it's over.
                            Here's are prediction for you. Danger will end up at Collingwood!
                            "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                            • Webby
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 1880

                              Re: List Management 2015

                              Originally posted by SlimPickens
                              Here's are prediction for you. Danger will end up at Collingwood!
                              I'm just about with you on that. Adelaide match the offer, then trade for Pies' first round pick plus Seedsman. That's where it's at. We need to get into the mix with Talia plus our first rounder, plus something else. Dangerfield is a Robbie Flower, Diesel Williams type. We need to lift our eyes and think big.

                              As for salary caps, is anyone going to leave a list with Dangerfield, Stringer, Bont, Libba, Boyd, Wallis etc. for an extra $100k? Think big, Dogs!!

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                              • kruder
                                Coaching Staff
                                • May 2011
                                • 3805

                                Re: List Management 2015

                                Originally posted by SlimPickens
                                Here's are prediction for you. Danger will end up at Collingwood!
                                Impossible to fit both Treloar and Danger.

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