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  • 1eyedog
    Hall of Fame
    • Mar 2008
    • 13228

    #76
    Re: Michael Talia

    Originally posted by ledge
    If a team doesnt know the oppositions game plan by the finals they wouldn't get far they had 23 games to see it.
    It's not like ours was a secret and we lost it missing goals and few other mistakes of our own making.
    So I wouldn't say Adelaide knowing our game plan was big news, I guarantee we knew theirs.
    No we would set up a very specific way for Adelaide as we would for all clubs. The game plan is the foundation but there would be significant structural changes based on opposition players and how they set up. If it was leaked prior to the EF that's just $@&%#.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      #77
      Re: Michael Talia

      Originally posted by 1eyedog
      There would be outrage if this was true. Even if it was Talia talking to his brother.
      The club shouldn't do anything, as it drops his potential trade value I'd clubs think we just want him gone. If it's true and we get a very good offer then we trade him and say something then. Could be just scuttlebutt designed to splinter him and the club.
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      • soupman
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2007
        • 5107

        #78
        Re: Michael Talia

        Originally posted by Remi Moses
        Lycett's their third ruck, so I don't think I'd be to enthused .
        And Talia's our third choice key defender, seems like a pretty fair trade really.
        I should leave it alone but you're not right

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        • Webby
          WOOF Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 1880

          #79
          Re: Michael Talia

          Personally, I'm enthused by the prospect of us trading Talia. I believe he's a player whose trade value exceeds his ability due to nepotism.

          Ralf Schumacher
          Patrick McEnroe
          Michael Talia

          Take a trade and run.

          How about pick 11, Talia and Hamilton for Dangerfield? (After they match his Geelong offer)??

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          • F'scary
            WOOF Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 4089

            #80
            Re: Michael Talia

            Originally posted by Webby
            Personally, I'm enthused by the prospect of us trading Talia. I believe he's a player whose trade value exceeds his ability due to nepotism.

            Ralf Schumacher
            Patrick McEnroe
            Michael Talia

            Take a trade and run.

            How about pick 11, Talia and Hamilton for Dangerfield? (After they match his Geelong offer)??
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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #81
              Re: Michael Talia

              Originally posted by Remi Moses
              Lycett's their third ruck, so I don't think I'd be to enthused .
              Surprised Sydney re-signed Richards if they're into Talia .
              Sinclair is playing 2nd ruck at WCE because he can spend the bulk of game time as a forward.

              Lycett is a 204/104 1st Ruck monster who doesn't have a role alongside NicNat.

              To get an idea of what he could offer, look at his 21 poss, 39 hit out, 7 tackle effort as first Ruck against Hawthorn when NicNat was out.

              He is 22, years from his prime as a Ruck and has 4 years of AFL development with Cox and NN.

              He would be a super addition to our list if we could get him.

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              • Doc26
                Coaching Staff
                • Sep 2009
                • 3087

                #82
                Re: Michael Talia

                Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                Sinclair is playing 2nd ruck at WCE because he can spend the bulk of game time as a forward.

                Lycett is a 204/104 1st Ruck monster who doesn't have a role alongside NicNat.

                To get an idea of what he could offer, look at his 21 poss, 39 hit out, 7 tackle effort as first Ruck against Hawthorn when NicNat was out.

                He is 22, years from his prime as a Ruck and has 4 years of AFL development with Cox and NN.

                He would be a super addition to our list if we could get him.
                He was certainly rated by them at the end of last season signing on for a lucrative 4 year deal. It would be a risky move by WCE to move him on given Naitanui's injury history.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #83
                  Re: Michael Talia

                  Originally posted by Doc26
                  He was certainly rated by them at the end of last season signing on for a lucrative 4 year deal. It would be a risky move by WCE to move him on given Naitanui's injury history.
                  I agree. Odds are against it.

                  On the other and, they look like getting Jetta and are going to have to make some hard decisions.

                  With Sinclair already there as back up, he just may be the one they decide is expendable.

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                  • Webby
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1880

                    #84
                    Re: Michael Talia

                    Originally posted by Doc26
                    He was certainly rated by them at the end of last season signing on for a lucrative 4 year deal. It would be a risky move by WCE to move him on given Naitanui's injury history.
                    Surely if he's effectively an over-paid third stringer, WCE would be more likely to want to trade him out in order to make room for a first 22 player like Jetta?

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                    • Doc26
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3087

                      #85
                      Re: Michael Talia

                      Originally posted by Webby
                      Surely if he's effectively an over-paid third stringer, WCE would be more likely to want to trade him out in order to make room for a first 22 player like Jetta?
                      12 months on may have changed WCE's thinking but this time last year his currency was not being viewed as on over-paid third stringer. At the time Port were touted to be heavily into him, Naitanui continued to have question marks on his durability, he looked to break out in the latter half of the season and Sinclair was stuck in the WAFL (like Lycett now).

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                      • The Bulldogs Bite
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11226

                        #86
                        Re: Michael Talia

                        400K and 3 years? Talia would be mad not to take it and we'd be mad not to encourage him to take it.

                        I'd be confident of finding a state league key defender or delisted free agent (ie. Hamling) who could offer as much or more than Talia. Not sure what Sydney have to offer in terms of players/picks - perhaps a third club would need to be involved.

                        Jones looked OK from the little I saw of him. Would a Jones & 2nd/3rd round pick suffice?
                        W00F!

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                        • Remi Moses
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 14785

                          #87
                          Re: Michael Talia

                          Originally posted by soupaman
                          And Talia's our third choice key defender, seems like a pretty fair trade really.
                          I thought we'd be looking at a mature ruckman, and Lycett matches up with Campbell in regards to age demographic .
                          Interesting times

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                          • soupman
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 5107

                            #88
                            Re: Michael Talia

                            Originally posted by Remi Moses
                            I thought we'd be looking at a mature ruckman, and Lycett matches up with Campbell in regards to age demographic .
                            Interesting times
                            Fair enough, although the three most realistic targets, Kreuzer, Leuenberger and Martin aren't exactly standouts due to injury, injury, and a combo of age and whether he wants to return to Melbourne.

                            Someone like Lycett could be riskier, but potentially a better pay off for a cheaper price.
                            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14915

                              #89
                              Re: Michael Talia

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              They have an academy player and potentially a father son pick to consider. I can't see then giving up a first-round pick
                              Not this year - but if give them Talia and our second rounder (they need the points under the bidding system) surely they'd consider it for their first rounder next year?
                              I don't think they have any highly rated academy kids for next year.
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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #90
                                Re: Michael Talia

                                It's hardly suprsing the Swans are into Talia. Grundy is just about cooked as is Richards. Both probably have 1 more year in them.

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