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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11866

    Re: Michael Talia

    Talia should be banned, Crows punished and us compensated. He should not be allowed to play AFL again.
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    • Webby
      WOOF Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 1880

      Re: Michael Talia

      I feel sorry for his grandfather, Harvey if this is true..

      I stress, if true, what a stupid, stupid, petty little man! To think my hard earned money paid this bloke's wages.. What a grub.

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      • F'scary
        WOOF Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 4089

        Re: Michael Talia

        Originally posted by azabob
        I read it happened after Kyle Cheany and Ben Stratton talked after their game friday night and Stratton told Beveridge.
        The statement by the Bulldogs' CEO (see Club's official website) says they became aware of the allegations on Monday, 14 September. The Crows/Hawks match was played 4 days later, Friday 18 September.

        I think that we have to hold judgement. It may be that our Talia had a case of loose lips on a couple of points as opposed to maliciously leaking chosen details. We have not been told exactly what was leaked. The Crows have said their coaching staff were not aware of the information before the match.
        Officially on the Bus-wagon

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        • josie
          Coaching Staff
          • Oct 2012
          • 4458

          Re: Michael Talia

          How very, very sad on so many fronts. Will await outcome of investigation and hope the AFL are really thorough. I fear we will be worse off trade wise through no fault of our own. There are so many angles to this, I am just stunned.

          On a night we should be celebrating Captain Murph, Woody and Stringer as AA's...
          Josie :)

          Our day will come
          And we'll have everything.
          We'll share the joy
          Just like '54 again.

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          • 1eyedog
            Hall of Fame
            • Mar 2008
            • 13228

            Re: Michael Talia

            Originally posted by F'scary
            The statement by the Bulldogs' CEO (see Club's official website) says they became aware of the allegations on Monday, 14 September. The Crows/Hawks match was played 4 days later, Friday 18 September.

            I think that we have to hold judgement. It may be that our Talia had a case of loose lips on a couple of points as opposed to maliciously leaking chosen details. We have not been told exactly what was leaked. The Crows have said their coaching staff were not aware of the information before the match.
            And Chopper Reid said he never killed anyone that didn't deserve it. Doesn't mean it's true what response did you expect out of Adelaide?
            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44579

              Re: Michael Talia

              Originally posted by F'scary
              The statement by the Bulldogs' CEO (see Club's official website) says they became aware of the allegations on Monday, 14 September. The Crows/Hawks match was played 4 days later, Friday 18 September.

              I think that we have to hold judgement. It may be that our Talia had a case of loose lips on a couple of points as opposed to maliciously leaking chosen details. We have not been told exactly what was leaked.
              Points well made. There are inconsistencies in what is being reported and for me it comes down to intent.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • Dry Rot
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6444

                Re: Michael Talia

                Originally posted by F'scary
                It may be that our Talia had a case of loose lips on a couple of points as opposed to maliciously leaking chosen details. We have not been told exactly what was leaked.
                Seems the opposite. Have read that it was quite detailed game day plans. Crows mysteriously reading our moves.

                That's how the club figured it out.

                Appalling behaviour.
                The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                • F'scary
                  WOOF Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 4089

                  Re: Michael Talia

                  Originally posted by 1eyedog
                  And Chopper Reid said he never killed anyone that didn't deserve it. Doesn't mean it's true what response did you expect out of Adelaide?
                  Fair enough. They would prima facie have motivation to deny the allegations even if they were true.
                  Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                  • Bulldog4life
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 9607

                    Re: Michael Talia

                    Originally posted by Dry Rot
                    Seems the opposite. Have read that it was quite detailed game day plans. Crows mysteriously reading our moves.

                    That's how the club figured it out.

                    Appalling behaviour.
                    Agree. Could have even helped Eddie get off his chain....who knows?

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                    • 1eyedog
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 13228

                      Re: Michael Talia

                      My word they would. At worst they will scapegoat one person and deny everything else. As you say though there is so much we don't know.
                      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        Re: Michael Talia

                        It's prelim final week. We would've guessed the three All Australians tonight. Yet we made a public statement. Perhaps the club thought this was very serious?

                        We would've had to factor in the impact on Talia the person and player, but also on our players. Perhaps the club thought this was very serious. This most certainly ends our relationship with him. Again, the club might have thought and known that ending this relationship was because it was very serious. The club would've weighed up fractures in our playing group if his team mates thought we'd hung him out to dry. I guess the club thought it was very serious and could produce evidence to any upset players.

                        There's rumours abound about potential new sponsors, yet we put out a public statement that will deflect a fair bit of positive press. Perhaps the club thought this was very serious.

                        The club conducted an investigation, overseen by the President who is a legal genius based on his ability to win major class actions. The club decided after this to make a voluntary report of a listed player and not use its powers to fine players. Perhaps not fining him for an low level accident or mistake shows the club thought this was serious.

                        We would've worked out the trade value of what would've been a good pick or player trade would diminish to possibly nothing and that relations with a powerful AFL club would end in the gutter for the time being. Perhaps the club thought this was serious.

                        Surely the clubs leaders would have weighed all these risks against the likelihood of a finding of guilt. Obviously all these negatives for something that could not be established would make it a dumb thing to do. Perhaps the club is confident that it's serious and confident that the media backlash and flow on problems are worth pursuing this.

                        I'm backing our club & our clubs leaders 100%.

                        If you change clubs and people to Pakistan cricket - sensitive info was handed on or was passed on by a player of one team to an opposition team. The opposition team in receipt of the sensitive info narrowly won. People betting who may have known about it and received money or betting agencies fluctuations may be in big trouble. Frankly, I don't see how this doesn't get bumped to both state police forces as a matter of routine like David Kings matter did.
                        Last edited by bulldogtragic; 23-09-2015, 12:08 AM.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • FrediKanoute
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3832

                          Re: Michael Talia

                          Originally posted by ledge
                          But it's also points to the crows being undermining too if they used the information, knowing that its not right.
                          Who's worse ? Talia or the Crows ?
                          Talia (if true) without a doubt. Look its competitive sport. If information comes into your hands re a game plan.....

                          Talia (or the culprit who leaked the information), has no excuse. At the very least its a breach of confidentiality, at worst its theft of intellectual property.

                          He is a very silly boy if this is true.

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                          • BulldogBelle
                            WOOF Member
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 5284

                            Re: Michael Talia

                            Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                            Talia (if true) without a doubt. Look its competitive sport. If information comes into your hands re a game plan.....

                            Talia (or the culprit who leaked the information), has no excuse. At the very least its a breach of confidentiality, at worst its theft of intellectual property.

                            He is a very silly boy if this is true.
                            Was there was a mini betting plunge on Adelaide.

                            If a substantial leak is true the bookies will be fuming, could have cost them millions.

                            We should be fuming, could have cost us a premiership and much more.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              Re: Michael Talia

                              Originally posted by ledge
                              But it's also points to the crows being undermining too if they used the information, knowing that its not right.
                              Who's worse ? Talia or the Crows ?
                              Both. The decent and honest thing to do would be report that the information had come to you, before the match. Naïve? Perhaps. But many of us stood at Fed Square and listened to our passionate and fierce President, who finished his speech by imploring his Bulldogs mob to spare a thought for a team that lost its coach and deserved our respect and sportsmanship, cut-throat final or not.

                              And all the while the bastards were reading our mail?!

                              One more reason to hate them just got chalked up on a very old chalkboard.

                              Originally posted by azabob
                              I read it happened after Kyle Cheany and Ben Stratton talked after their game friday night and Stratton told Beveridge.
                              Wow. Kyle Cheney has actually done something useful on a footy field?

                              Seriously, if true, how did this come up? Why would he tell Stratton unless it was significant in their victory? I somewhat doubt this is true but if so, proves it made the difference.
                              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                              Not only can he not play, he's also an absolute moron.

                              I just hope Adelaide or Sydney are silly enough to cough up something decent for him.
                              I don't care if we get pick 146. Some things are more important.

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Grandad was our number one ruck in 1954.
                              And a hell of a nice guy. Shattered for him.

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                              • Mantis
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 15412

                                Re: Michael Talia

                                Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                                Not only can he not play, he's also an absolute moron.

                                I just hope Adelaide or Sydney are silly enough to cough up something decent for him.
                                If the allegations are proved to be correct he needs to be sacked.

                                In no way should we help him get to his club of choice.. Some things are more important than a draft pick.

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