Michael Talia

[Twodogs]

Re: Michael Talia

How's Carro's latest hatchet job? WTF is this crap?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...23-gl5lns.html

So let me get this straight. Essendon lose some information that can clear them or convict them and they are the bad guys. The Talia's lose some information that can clear them or convict them and we are the bad guys.

That's consistant.

[Drunken Bum]

Re: Michael Talia

So let me get this straight. Essendon lose some information that can clear them or convict them and they are the bad guys. The Talia's lose some information that can clear them or convict them and we are the bad guys.

That's consistant.

They absurdity of this whole thing is infuriating, i'm filthy beyond belief at how this has been handled but this crap from Carro is the final straw, it's beyond disgusting.

[WBFC4FFC]

Re: Michael Talia

So let me get this straight. Essendon lose some information that can clear them or convict them and they are the bad guys. The Talia's lose some information that can clear them or convict them and we are the bad guys.

That's consistant.

That's the perfect summary.

Deleting Texts! That can easily be retrieved. Why won't Daniel Talia OK such a move, if he is innocent in this?!?!

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Re: Michael Talia

I got a prompt reply from Anthony.Stanguts@aflvic.com.au:

"Thanks Gavan for your email.

I have forwarded it to AFL head office."

Watch this space.

[josie]

Re: Michael Talia

I got a prompt reply from Anthony.Stanguts@aflvic.com.au:

"Thanks Gavan for your email.

I have forwarded it to AFL head office."

Watch this space.

Good one BornInSroopSt !!

I have sent email to The Age and also sent email of support to the Dogs. Sorry for length. I do hope others contact AFL and The Age and our Club to voice our concerns at the way this situation has panned out and the very poor journalism shown by some...

Hi Peter and Luke and others in our mighty Club,

Just want to send you a copy of feedback I sent to The Age (via editorial feedback) that I just sent to them a moment ago.


There are many Dogs Members and Supporters, based upon WOOF and Big Footy, who think our Club handled this mighty well. Congratulations on a job well done, even if other parties did not handle it as well as perhaps we may have hoped.

I love the planning and positive vibes around our Club at present and a Big Thanks for all the hard yakka.

GO DOGS in 2016 !!

Here's what I sent The Age regarding this article (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...y=1479885425):

"Article by Caroline Wilson on AFl/Talia brother investigation is IMO very poor journalism. Smacks of someone who does not like the Dogs as a Club, nor their President.

Where is Caroline's evidence that the Club and P.Gordon went too far? If the Club had not reported the suspicions after they were advised of by others then what integrity would the Club have then? Would Caroline have said anything in this hypothetical scenario, as would any journalist who purports to be objective? If that's the case what is the difference (damned if you do, damned if you don't)?

Does Caroline recall one or two Collingwood players being fined for letting out small amounts of info. about injuries or such minor info. to a relative a few years ago? Clearly AFL made a clear stance on integrity back then and on this basis the Dogs had no choice but to report it to the AFL asap.


I usually very much respect Caroline as a reasonable journalist. However I strongly believe she is way off the mark with this article and if anything she should apologise to the Dogs and P.Gordon for her clear bias and lack of evidence.


Here is a much better balanced article - I hope Caroline reads this one:

http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/a...chelangelo-rucci/story-fnia3gpe-1227619010338

The AFL, if they are serious about integrity of the game could retrieve deleted messages. One phone lost, the other has had messages deleted. Perhaps it is rather fanciful this is co-incidence and even if it is co-incidence I think the Dogs did everything right. If not what this means is Clubs are likely to hide or ignore such suspicions or knowledge of tip offs etc. in the future -and where is the integrity in that?

From a long time Age Reader & Subscriber and avid (and objective) Passionate Dogs Member"

[Twodogs]

Re: Michael Talia

If we had ignored this and quietly cleared Talia then Wilson and her ilk would have (quite rightly) been saying that we swept it under the carpet and the police should have been notified straight away, Gordon is a lawyer he should know better, blah blah.

[F'scary]

Re: Michael Talia

Wilson's article is outrageous and her opinion of our management's actions flies egregiously in the face of the facts of the case.

We must use this as a motivating force in season 2016

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Michael Talia

Meh. Wilson is in the business of getting tightly held info and she's burned up AFL relationships going Essendon. So she needs to curry up some favours and goes and does the AFL bidding on this issue. All that has happened is that any credibility she once had as a stoic independent journo unaffected by the dumbing down of the AFL media is gone. She's now firmly a part of the problem of dumbed down footy journo culture. Which is a shame for her legacy, but that's for her to live with as a now sold out hypocrite. Remember the old saying about one days newspaper is the next day's kitty litter liner. I'd say this will line my cats kitty litter tray tomorrow, but there's no way at all that my cats arse would respect that column from Caro enough to even shit on. So I'll just put it in the bin.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Michael Talia

How's Carro's latest hatchet job? WTF is this crap?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...23-gl5lns.html

Talk about as Dumb as Dog Shit.

"Look Gillam now that I finally managed to push that old slug Demetriou into an early retirement with all my anti AFL and Essendumb supplements saga stories for you so you could take his place as the Head Honcho,
You can be rest assured that I am firmly in your corner and will always support whatever
steam pile you and your cronnies @ AFL HQ want to trot out to the gullable supporter through my incisive,informative,high quality journalistic reporting.
I mean after all you are so much younger and better looking then the Slug "

"Thanks Carro,I can always trust you to DO THE RIGHT THING!!"

Appologies to Spike Lee

[Sedat]

Re: Michael Talia

Meh. Wilson is in the business of getting tightly held info and she's burned up AFL relationships going Essendon. So she needs to curry up some favours and goes and does the AFL bidding on this issue. All that has happened is that any credibility she once had as a stoic independent journo unaffected by the dumbing down of the AFL media is gone. She's now firmly a part of the problem of dumbed down footy journo culture. Which is a shame for her legacy, but that's for her to live with as a now sold out hypocrite. Remember the old saying about one days newspaper is the next day's kitty litter liner. I'd say this will line my cats kitty litter tray tomorrow, but there's no way at all that my cats arse would respect that column from Caro enough to even shit on. So I'll just put it in the bin.

Caro is the unofficial mouthpiece of the AFL out in scribe land. She will always take the perspective of City Hall over any other aggrieved party.

The reality is that integrity is a movable commodity in the AFL - the AFL know what took place between the Talia's but are not interested in considering the ramifications of their actions on gambling agencies, their fastest-growing source of revenue.

[Bornadog]

Re: Michael Talia

Caro is the unofficial mouthpiece of the AFL out in scribe land. She will always take the perspective of City Hall over any other aggrieved party.

The reality is that integrity is a movable commodity in the AFL - the AFL know what took place between the Talia's but are not interested in considering the ramifications of their actions on gambling agencies, their fastest-growing source of revenue.

Yep, they make it up as they go along. Just look at the Carlisle situation. Two weeks earlier they introduce a brand new policy on drugs and then change it completely when it comes to Carlisle's indiscretion.

The whole process with Tellia (thanks for that redders70 ) is a farce of the highest order.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Michael Talia

Yep, they make it up as they go along. Just look at the Carlisle situation. Two weeks earlier they introduce a brand new policy on drugs and then change it completely when it comes to Carlisle's indiscretion.

The whole process with Tellia (thanks for that redders70 ) is a farce of the highest order.

No worries B,
Anytime

[Testekill]

Re: Michael Talia

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-25/cheney-cops-conduct-warning-over-talia-claims

What a debacle. Cheney cops a warning for "lying" to an integrity investigation for two months(which would make you lose your job in the real world), the Talias get off for there not being any evidence even though Daniel Talia admitted to deleting text messages that he had recieved from his brother and we get painted as the villains in all of this.

[GVGjr]

Re: Michael Talia

I agree, however, if what Cheney is alleged to be now saying is true he should be heavily fined, not just warned. We lost a player that we invested a lot of energy into. Perhaps the AFL should give us a compensation pick.

If I was Adelaide and had the integrity of my best defender questioned because a marginal team mate didn't come clean with information I'd be getting rid of that player or at the very least standing him down for a while. He exhibited little to know regard for his team mate and can't be trusted.

That would be the least I would do. To not do something indicates something a weak club or the more likely scenario that Cheney has been asked to take one for the team Joe the camera man style.

[GVGjr]

Re: Michael Talia

Why wouldn't the AFL demand that the Talia's tell their telco companies to make the content of their calls and text messages during that one week period available for them to clear their names? The AFL can't claim there is no evidence if they haven't requested that information. If the brothers have said no then make that clear why there isn't enough evidence.