The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

[comrade]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Hmmm, the more I think about it, the more Stevens does seem to be our most valuable trade asset that is also relatively surplus to our list needs. There are a few teams that could do with a tough, skilled mid like him (Saints, Richmond). If he could be turned into a first rounder, you'd have to have a very hard look at it.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Hmmm, the more I think about it, the more Stevens does seem to be our most valuable trade asset that is also relatively surplus to our list needs. There are a few teams that could do with a tough, skilled mid like him (Saints, Richmond). If he could be turned into a first rounder, you'd have to have a very hard look at it.

Pick 6 or 7 and the circa $1M salary savings in Mantis' last post that a wonderful position to be in. Jason McCartney would have sleepless nights about what he could do in such a situation.

[comrade]

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If we're in that ballpark, then we are going to have an opportunity to go hard at an FA's or trades for very good players. Can you imagine AFL House and their footy media if we go out and splash some cash on a/some decent players!

Minno finishing up would certainly help our cap. Surely he's on 450-500K plus a year, given he signed back when he was in his prime and an AA.

[comrade]

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Pick 6 or 7 and the circa $1M salary savings in Mantis' last post that a wonderful position to be in. Jason McCartney would have sleepless nights about what he could do in such a situation.

They say Fyfe is not exactly content over in the West...

[bulldogtragic]

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They say Fyfe is not exactly content over in the West...

I'd do that in a heart beat, that's a premiership trade. Pick 6 & Jong/Hamling/Hrovat and Fyfe can have the $1M for 5 years.

Boyd, Bob & Dale if they retire next year free up a heap of cash too. Imagine the footy media if Fyffe came to us. "Irresponsible dogs throwing million dollar contracts around like confetti, and for a bloke with a double leg break"...

[Mantis]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Hmmm, the more I think about it, the more Stevens does seem to be our most valuable trade asset that is also relatively surplus to our list needs. There are a few teams that could do with a tough, skilled mid like him (Saints, Richmond). If he could be turned into a first rounder, you'd have to have a very hard look at it.

That's the key point.. We have an abundance of hard contested players, who have excellent endurance, but who aren't quick and don't have great kicking skills... Think Macrae, Hunter, Libba, Picken & Wallis.. On top of Dahl & Bont who are slightly different.. I guess I'm also banking on the likes of Dale, Webb & McLean continuing to improve.

To get what we are lacking you have to be willing to give up a bit and I think it's a risk worth taking.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Dear Nat Fyffe & AFL gun players:

[Mofra]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Boyd, Bob & Dale if they retire next year free up a heap of cash too. Imagine the footy media if Fyffe came to us. "Irresponsible dogs throwing million dollar contracts around like confetti, and for a bloke with a double leg break"...

Imagine opposition coaches trying to tag both Bonti and Fyfe leaving 190cm+ players like Macrae and Stringer to rotate through the midfield.

And some bloke called Libba.

[Mofra]

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Truth is I love what Koby brings to the side and I'd prefer to keep him but in his best year his average TOG was a little below our other mids.

The other issue is player retention is generally cheaper than attracting a player on the open market.

And sorry, but I don't see it with Hamilton. It's not that he just has to get to AFL standard, he has to get to AFL standard and beat out a bunch of other guys to get to one of the top 30 or so players on our list to put real pressure on senior spots. He's a mile off that and if we can't fit in guys like Webb who are racking up BOGs at VFL level, Dale is fringe, Dunkley looks set to be best 22 sooner rather than later then there's HC, Hrovat and Jong who are kind of rated (but realistically) depth players at the minute then we should look at freeing up that spot. Our mid/forwards are young with the exception of Dickson and we rotate genuine mids through there quite heavily anyway with Wallis and Bonti regular fixtures there, Dunkley in the games he's played, and Clay Smith if the planets align and he ever gets back.

[1eyedog]

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Who are they that said Fyfe is discontent?

The point of difference between Koby and many of our other mids are that he carries the ball. Sure he's tough and good above his head, but he runs when he has the ball. I guess that's why he has trade value as well.

Quite a few of our mids are get ball - handball.

[comrade]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Who are they that said Fyfe is discontent?

The point of difference between Koby and many of our other mids are that he carries the ball. Sure he's tough and good above his head, but he runs when he has the ball. I guess that's why he has trade value as well.

Quite a few of our mids are get ball - handball.

There are rumblings that he's at odds with some of the leadership group. Something to do with the captaincy vote over the pre-season.

Might be rubbish, might not be.

Imagine rotating Fyfe and Bont through CHF when the other goes in the midfield. Hehe

[The Doctor]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Stevens is non tradeable in my opinion

[chef]

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No one gets traded unless its their idea imo. We've got a cracking group last thing we need is to be upsetting the apple cart like we did in the late 90's.

Dalrymple is doing great work where ever our picks lay so i hope we just keep building from the draft.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

No one gets traded unless its their idea imo. We've got a cracking group last thing we need is to be upsetting the apple cart like we did in the late 90's.

Dalrymple is doing great work where ever our picks lay so i hope we just keep building from the draft.

We still need to create a minimum of 3 spots. Trading would be preferable to delisting for anyone that must go!

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

No one gets traded unless its their idea imo. We've got a cracking group last thing we need is to be upsetting the apple cart like we did in the late 90's.

Dalrymple is doing great work where ever our picks lay so i hope we just keep building from the draft.

agreed. With the talent on our list we are selling the geelong and hawthorn style "stick together, win together". If our players take pay cuts to stick together and win a flag, we can't upset that by trading a key part of the team against his will.