The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

[Rocco Jones]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Not sure aiming for two retirements per year is necessary for our club.

Hawthorn have a much older list profile than us and therefore need to address it more directly, we however have such a long list that we'll soon be delisting 29 year olds to meet our quota.

I think in our case we address retirements on a case by case basis, but have to beconscious not to keep anyone out of sentiment. If Morris or Murphy start dropping away we need to be prepared to pull the trigger, but only based on real things like form and not on an arbitrary number.

Agreed. I am not into set rules/quotas. Silly to keep or dump a guy just to get to 2.

As you mention, the Hawks have an older list. What needs to be remembered is what we also drafted in Adcock. I see him as closer to the end to Bob, Morris and Boyd. If we need to let go of two older guys, Minson and Adcock are the ones.

[Bornadog]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Hawthorn have a much older list profile than us

As you mention, the Hawks have an older list. .

If we are talking 30plus and you include Adcock, we have 5, Hawks have 4. Hawks of course have lots between 27 to 29

[1eyedog]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Murphy, Morris and Boyd will turn 35 years old next year.

I know and they'll all probably want to play on so do we need to make a decision on them? Murph could play on but there may be questions on the other two who have heavier bodies and have taken heavier hits over the years. If this is Boyd's and Morris' last year I salute them because they've been champions for the club, but we now have players who can come in and do their job.

[Maddog37]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Yeah but he still butchers the ball and his decision making at times on Sunday wasn't flash. His turnovers resulted in two Freo goals. I thought he was solid but I was thinking about how quickly Ponting declined on my way home. Boyd's position is transferable to Webb who I would prefer to actually start playing. There is enough experience down back without Boyd.

I'd keep Morris for the very reasons as discussed above. It doesn't matter how the opposition structure up he can play big or small.

Boyd is just a game or two short in his preparation. His mistakes were just a bit of rust.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Agreed. I am not into set rules/quotas. Silly to keep or dump a guy just to get to 2.

As you mention, the Hawks have an older list. What needs to be remembered is what we also drafted in Adcock. I see him as closer to the end to Bob, Morris and Boyd. If we need to let go of two older guys, Minson and Adcock are the ones.

Isn't Adcock only on Rookie list or have I missed that he has been upgraded?

[Bulldog4life]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Boyd is just a game or two short in his preparation. His mistakes were just a bit of rust.

Thinking the same. He didn't play a lot of minutes in the Nab matches.

[1eyedog]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Boyd is just a game or two short in his preparation. His mistakes were just a bit of rust.

Maybe you're right there.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Isn't Adcock only on Rookie list or have I missed that he has been upgraded?

Yeah he is on the rookie list but I wound't retire Boyd/Morris just to upgrade from first pick in rookie draft to last pick in national draft.

[LostDoggy]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

If there form warrants them to be in our best 22 as Bevo sees fit,then what's the rush to push them off into the sunset?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

If there form warrants them to be in our best 22 as Bevo sees fit,then what's the rush to push them off into the sunset?

I guess Hawthorn's view is to stagger retirements so you don't lose 1,000 games of experience in one year and radically change the best 22 in one off season. That's their plan anyway, even if Lake said he wanted another year to them.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

If there form warrants them to be in our best 22 as Bevo sees fit,then what's the rush to push them off into the sunset?

I couldn't agree more with you. I like the Hawks system, who can argue with it? But 1- bad idea to copy something 100% 2- don't like rigid rules 3- they have a lot more guys 27-29.

We got Jed Adcock in to help the younger bodies. We are looking like a very good team short term and have a lot of talented young players. I wouldn't be making drastic changes.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

I guess Hawthorn's view is to stagger retirements so you don't lose 1,000 games of experience in one year and radically change the best 22 in one off season. That's their plan anyway, even if Lake said he wanted another year to them.

Looking at the Hawk's list it doesn't appear to be as strong as they would like. I wouldn't be surprised if over the next couple of years they drop sharply down the ladder.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Looking at the Hawk's list it doesn't appear to be as strong as they would like. I wouldn't be surprised if over the next couple of years they drop sharply down the ladder.

They have won 3 premierships in a row and 4 over 8 years. Seriously if the Bulldogs give us that, they can suck for the rest of my life and the next 5 generations of Rocco Jones' (they will probably be massive jerks anyway).

[Mofra]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

They have won 3 premierships in a row and 4 over 8 years. Seriously if the Bulldogs give us that, they can suck for the rest of my life and the next 5 generations of Rocco Jones' (they will probably be massive jerks anyway).

They'll probably name your great great grandson "Liam" to destroy your lineage.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

If forced under torture, to name 4 to cut...

Minson, Prudden, Matt Boyd, Roberts or Clay if his run of shite luck continues. You can make cases that all of them could be on a list next year if not ours, and if not injuries that all could play for us next year. We've obviously gone hard at cutting the obvious dead wood. You'd imagine that would free up a chunk of change if those were the four.

For pick 18, 36, 54, 70 (Sydney's 4th rounder for Tahleeya) (leaving aside trades, free agents, rookie upgrades or any interest in Mick Romero)