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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45506

    #16
    Re: Goalkicking

    Originally posted by Twodogs
    Will it though? It was a problem last year too. When it comes to goal kickers we are all over the place. We have one top line converter, a couple are not bad but the others are a bit like the keystone cops coming up with all sorts of humorous methods of trying to get the ball through the goals.

    And I'll keep saying it. We don't have to wait until the off season to teach anyone how to kick the ball properly. It's a simple process.

    If we were to lose a critical game later in the season due to an erratic performance I think it would leave us no other option than to regroup and take it more seriously.
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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    • jazzadogs
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Oct 2008
      • 5837

      #17
      Re: Goalkicking

      And that is why goalkicking is so important. Sure we missed some opportunities late, but the accuracy of Redpath and others contributed to our early dominance. And Port's 2.4 in the second helped us out.

      Swings and roundabouts ey?

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 45506

        #18
        Re: Goalkicking

        Originally posted by jazzadogs
        And that is why goalkicking is so important. Sure we missed some opportunities late, but the accuracy of Redpath and others contributed to our early dominance. And Port's 2.4 in the second helped us out.

        Swings and roundabouts ey?
        I think the point isn't just about accurate kicking it's about missing the easy goals and we are still under par in that regard.
        We miss more than we should.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27681

          #19
          Re: Goalkicking

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          If we were to lose a critical game later in the season due to an erratic performance I think it would leave us no other option than to regroup and take it more seriously.
          Like it did in the final against Adelaide last year? It's already cost us a final. What has to happen to get them to notice it?

          Missing the winning goal from the goal square in the Grand Final?
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • SonofScray
            Coaching Staff
            • Apr 2008
            • 4284

            #20
            Re: Goalkicking

            We still missed some easy ones yesterday but on balance yesterday felt like a game where we nailed the ones we had to. Accuracy from Redpath and Dickson set the tone perhaps?
            Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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            • BornInDroopSt'54
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2009
              • 5334

              #21
              Re: Goalkicking

              I'm taking over goal kicking practice as of now. Every shot needs to be undertaken as if in game time with a man on the mark.
              Our main goal kickers will practice daily for 30 mins with the ball lowered with the relevant hand as close to the foot as possible, with the ball in line with the relevant leg hence foot and with the head leaning forward towards said foot. Drill it, drill after drill. Rote learning and get the feel of the rhythm of the leg as pendulum following through high towards the gap between the goal posts.
              Seriously it can't be that hard to teach. All professional golfers get instructions on their swing. It should be the same for goal kickers. It must be part of ongoing training including preseason.
              Footscray Football Republic.

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27681

                #22
                Re: Goalkicking

                Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
                I'm taking over goal kicking practice as of now. Every shot needs to be undertaken as if in game time with a man on the mark.
                Our main goal kickers will practice daily for 30 mins with the ball lowered with the relevant hand as close to the foot as possible, with the ball in line with the relevant leg hence foot and with the head leaning forward towards said foot. Drill it, drill after drill. Rote learning and get the feel of the rhythm of the leg as pendulum following through high towards the gap between the goal posts.
                Seriously it can't be that hard to teach. All professional golfers get instructions on their swing. It should be the same for goal kickers. It must be part of ongoing training including preseason.

                Damn straight. You've got the job.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • Missing Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8501

                  #23
                  Re: Goalkicking

                  Originally posted by Eastdog
                  Yes this I agree is not a strong area of ours. The question is can players be taught this skill from a coach or is it just innate in the players. Jack Redpath has been really good up forward taking some nice marks this year but a few times his goalkicking hasn't been great. Lachie Hunter has been really good lately but I remember in the game day thread a few weeks back against the Giants I think it was we were very critical of his conversion at goal.

                  My brother is a Pies supporter but we were talking about the Dogs and he said that while defensive we have conceded very little our for is average 92 and we need to have it around 100 if we are a chance for the flag. Maybe we might be the exception and win it without average around 100.
                  Yes its the 100 point rule. Get it before your opponent, and you will win far more than you will lose.

                  Its obvious even without the "analysis" that kicking for goal has cost us games. The other thing is we work very hard for our goals-we don't get many cheap ones.

                  The good thing is we are now winning the close ones but.

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                  • Missing Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8501

                    #24
                    Re: Goalkicking

                    Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
                    I'm taking over goal kicking practice as of now. Every shot needs to be undertaken as if in game time with a man on the mark.
                    Our main goal kickers will practice daily for 30 mins with the ball lowered with the relevant hand as close to the foot as possible, with the ball in line with the relevant leg hence foot and with the head leaning forward towards said foot. Drill it, drill after drill. Rote learning and get the feel of the rhythm of the leg as pendulum following through high towards the gap between the goal posts.
                    Seriously it can't be that hard to teach. All professional golfers get instructions on their swing. It should be the same for goal kickers. It must be part of ongoing training including preseason.
                    Its not just us. Matthew Lloyd believes kicking skills have gone backwards.

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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 18103

                      #25
                      Re: Goalkicking

                      Footy is so much better to watch when we kick set shots. Nothing worse in a game of footy than dominating for large stretches and completely ballsing up shot after shot. On the flip side, there's nothing better than being under the pump but nailing everything and staying in the game.

                      If this isn't just a one week aberration and we've turned the corner with our forward 50 efficiency (both kicking for goal and hitting lead up targets), look out!
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • Bulldog4life
                        WOOF Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 9607

                        #26
                        Re: Goalkicking

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        Footy is so much better to watch when we kick set shots. Nothing worse in a game of footy than dominating for large stretches and completely ballsing up shot after shot. On the flip side, there's nothing better than being under the pump but nailing everything and staying in the game.

                        If this isn't just a one week aberration and we've turned the corner with our forward 50 efficiency (both kicking for goal and hitting lead up targets), look out!
                        Agree. Those set shots from Jack close to the fifty metre line were fantastic to watch and real team lifters.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67678

                          #27
                          Re: Goalkicking

                          Not just us with Goal kicking issues

                          Most recent V/AFL season with shot at goal accuracy above 50%...


                          2023 - Cats, Demons, Dockers, Pies, Roos, Swans
                          2022 - Eagles, Hawks, Lions, Tigers
                          2021 -
                          2020 -
                          2019 -
                          2018 -
                          2017 - Crows, Suns
                          2016 - GWS, Port, Saints
                          2015 - Dogs
                          2014 -
                          2013 -
                          2012 -
                          2011 - Dons
                          2010 - Blues
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #28
                            Re: Goalkicking

                            So you’re saying it’s Bevo’s fault it? Or BMAC put more effort in???

                            Shithouse company we are keeping. Just shit. House.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Bulldog Joe
                              Premiership Moderator
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 5627

                              #29
                              Re: Goalkicking

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Not just us with Goal kicking issues

                              Most recent V/AFL season with shot at goal accuracy above 50%...


                              2023 - Cats, Demons, Dockers, Pies, Roos, Swans
                              2022 - Eagles, Hawks, Lions, Tigers
                              2021 -
                              2020 -
                              2019 -
                              2018 -
                              2017 - Crows, Suns
                              2016 - GWS, Port, Saints
                              2015 - Dogs
                              2014 -
                              2013 -
                              2012 -
                              2011 - Dons
                              2010 - Blues
                              Nice timing to post.
                              How did Geelong and Sydney fare last night?
                              Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 67678

                                #30
                                Re: Goalkicking

                                Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                                Nice timing to post.
                                How did Geelong and Sydney fare last night?
                                Stuffed it right up
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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