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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21831

    #46
    Re: Goalkicking

    Originally posted by azabob
    Shame we will never know who...
    I assume whoever it was is very modest and handsome as well as smart.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #47
      Re: Goalkicking

      Originally posted by jeemak
      I assume whoever it was is very modest and handsome as well as smart.
      Alright it was me.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • Jasper
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2009
        • 1263

        #48
        Re: Goalkicking

        I doubt its an isolated incident but now that its become well known it just cant happen again. Such a talented player with unlimited potential just needs to tighten the routine. I could swallow my pride and ask Lloyd to spend an hour or two with him.
        Doing my best to use emojis more frequently :o

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        • angelopetraglia
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2008
          • 6844

          #49
          Re: Goalkicking

          Originally posted by ledge
          Plenty of retired accurate goal kickers we could call on to fix these things .. Fev, Lloyd, Betts, I would even look at Gunston and Hawkins when they retire . I also think it depends what kind of player they are eg for Weightman and Jones I would get Betts but for Jamarra and Naughton I would be getting someone like Lloyd .
          That might sound a little strange but if your a full forward you need more training on set shots, a crumber would need someone like Betts for the opportunist angle of holding the ball at different angles on the run.

          I also read somewhere that you might be an accurate kick when young but once you start building muscle your body changes to the extent you don?t kick the same. Meaning you have to correct your action to meet your muscle change and as we know it takes a few years to build your body, thus the our kicking action will be changing during that time .
          Agree with the concept. But Weightman doesn't need any help.

          He is ranked as the 13th most accurate goal kicker of all time since records were kept from 1965. He converts at 70.5%. (Tory Dickson for what it is worth is the 2nd best ever at 74.8%.).

          Only two current players convert better than Weightman in Larkey and Fogarty who are both elite goal kickers.

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          • ledge
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2007
            • 14312

            #50
            Re: Goalkicking

            Originally posted by angelopetraglia
            Agree with the concept. But Weightman doesn't need any help.

            He is ranked as the 13th most accurate goal kicker of all time since records were kept from 1965. He converts at 70.5%. (Tory Dickson for what it is worth is the 2nd best ever at 74.8%.).

            Only two current players convert better than Weightman in Larkey and Fogarty who are both elite goal kickers.
            It was more an example of like for like . Your right Weightman is extremely accurate.
            Do we have anyone at all that teaches goal kicking technique as a specialty ?
            Bring back the biff

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            • Bumper Bulldogs
              Coaching Staff
              • Apr 2008
              • 2969

              #51
              Re: Goalkicking

              Originally posted by ledge
              Plenty of retired accurate goal kickers we could call on to fix these things .. Fev, Lloyd, Betts, I would even look at Gunston and Hawkins when they retire . I also think it depends what kind of player they are eg for Weightman and Jones I would get Betts but for Jamarra and Naughton I would be getting someone like Lloyd .
              That might sound a little strange but if your a full forward you need more training on set shots, a crumber would need someone like Betts for the opportunist angle of holding the ball at different angles on the run.

              I also read somewhere that you might be an accurate kick when young but once you start building muscle your body changes to the extent you don?t kick the same. Meaning you have to correct your action to meet your muscle change and as we know it takes a few years to build your body, thus the our kicking action will be changing during that time .
              Why not put a call into Tory Dickson or Lindsay Gilbee to coach our goal kicking.
              BB.

              Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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              • ledge
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2007
                • 14312

                #52
                Re: Goalkicking

                Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
                Why not put a call into Tory Dickson or Lindsay Gilbee to coach our goal kicking.
                Yep exactly. But I would like to see a retired accurate full forward amongst it too as both players mentioned were both more a running half forward into goals type .
                Let’s get a set shot coach in as well.
                Bring back the biff

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                • MrMahatma
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3966

                  #53
                  Re: Goalkicking

                  Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
                  Why not put a call into Tory Dickson or Lindsay Gilbee to coach our goal kicking.
                  Does being a good kick mean you can teach someone how to kick? I'm not sure.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #54
                    Re: Goalkicking

                    Butcher a bunch of opportunities and lose a close game… I hope it stings. You lost it off your own boot guys.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • westbulldog
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1822

                      #55
                      Re: Goalkicking

                      Don't bother about improving goalkicking.......Bevo couldn't care less and it continues to cost us games.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66726

                        #56
                        Re: Goalkicking

                        Originally posted by westbulldog
                        Don't bother about improving goalkicking.......Bevo couldn't care less and it continues to cost us games.
                        I don't believe that is an accurate statement
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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44646

                          #57
                          Re: Goalkicking

                          Originally posted by westbulldog
                          Don't bother about improving goalkicking.......Bevo couldn't care less and it continues to cost us games.
                          The last few years he hasn't been able to resolve it and I think it's possibly more accurate to say he either doesn't know how to or is too stubborn to bring in outside help.
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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66726

                            #58
                            Re: Goalkicking

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            The last few years he hasn't been able to resolve it and I think it's possibly more accurate to say he either doesn't know how to or is too stubborn to bring in outside help.
                            You go to training. I bet when they have goal kicking practise, the players slot the ball through almost every time.

                            Missing goals in game time is not lack of skill, it is in the head.
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                            • macca
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 2366

                              #59
                              Re: Goalkicking

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              You go to training. I bet when they have goal kicking practise, the players slot the ball through almost every time.

                              Missing goals in game time is not lack of skill, it is in the head.
                              Whatever they are training is not working
                              Change the training for goal kickking

                              jack Riewoldt would practice with ear phones on with the crowd noise playing , I recall an interview on what he did to practice his goal kicking
                              Some of our players completely lack balance when they kick , that is from a set shot and when in motion

                              JuH has an aweful hook in his action

                              Bonts tongiht kicked it off the side of his boot in the 3rd quarter

                              McNeil just fumbles far to often. Maybe he needs to learn Judo or jujitsu to know about balance and be in the moment ?

                              Josh Daicos goal tonight in the third quarter was a good example of balance
                              Last edited by macca; 08-07-2023, 10:22 AM.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44646

                                #60
                                Re: Goalkicking

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                You go to training. I bet when they have goal kicking practise, the players slot the ball through almost every time.

                                Missing goals in game time is not lack of skill, it is in the head.
                                That's not the case.
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