Michael Hurley

[Bulldog4life]

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And Buddy will be 48. Seems short term thinking rules the roost.

Possibly

[Bornadog]

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I will say I am disappointed he isn't coming to the dogs. We do need a good solid backman in defence who can go toe to toe one on one. I just hope Adams can get on the park and Fletch puts on some weight and strength and can finally compete one out.

[Ozza]

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Amusing thread to review...it's a fickle game.

Would have been nice to keep Hurley - but good luck to him. Not an easy decision for these Essendon players.

[josie]

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Bummer, however does this mean we are more likely to re-sign Big Tom Campbell soon? (There was talk about TC being part of trade deal with Dons for Hurley).

I thought TC was looking promising in games he played and I can see him, Roughy and TBoyd play together, with TBoyd given more time up forward.

[whythelongface]

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Not doubting that , but clubs are used as leverage for a better deal.
I'm sure we do it, and it's used constantly in the world game and other sports

That is just life in general isn't it. You try and get the best deal you can using other organisations as leverage. Don't have a problem with it.

Feel sorry for Hurley that he chose to stay at a club that will not have any success in the next five years of his contract. If he had of chosen us he would leave the game as a three time premiership player. Ah well foresight is a wonderful thing.

[Remi Moses]

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That is just life in general isn't it. You try and get the best deal you can using other organisations as leverage. Don't have a problem with it.

Feel sorry for Hurley that he chose to stay at a club that will not have any success in the next five years of his contract. If he had of chosen us he would leave the game as a three time premiership player. Ah well foresight is a wonderful thing.

I guess it's the modern era we live in . The whole "sticking with my mates" mantra looks a bit silly when they put a contract in place months ago. I guess the Denis Pagan " Don't pee down my back and tell me it's raining"( I cleaned that up)comes to mind

[ratsmac]

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Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

Hopefully it was a disaster averted.

He's not that good anyhow

[Twodogs]

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You know I'm not sure he had what it took to be a bulldog anyway.

[Webby]

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Just reflecting on this and thinking, "Geez, Essendon paid astronomical money just to KEEP a player!"

They paid more to KEEP Hurly than Geelong did to GET the best player in the country - Dangerfield. (Wages, I mean.) When you think about it, Essendon are celebrating, but if Hurley is anything to go by, they're being bent over, paying overs to maintain the same core they've had that wasn't good enough a year ago. Meanwhile, the rest of us move on.

[SlimPickens]

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Just reflecting on this and thinking, "Geez, Essendon paid astronomical money just to KEEP a player!"

They paid more to KEEP Hurly than Geelong did to GET the best player in the country - Dangerfield. (Wages, I mean.) When you think about it, Essendon are celebrating, but if Hurley is anything to go by, they're being bent over, paying overs to maintain the same core they've had that wasn't good enough a year ago. Meanwhile, the rest of us move on.

They certainly are and with zero care on salary cap ramifications.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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Just reflecting on this and thinking, "Geez, Essendon paid astronomical money just to KEEP a player!"

They paid more to KEEP Hurly than Geelong did to GET the best player in the country - Dangerfield. (Wages, I mean.) When you think about it, Essendon are celebrating, but if Hurley is anything to go by, they're being bent over, paying overs to maintain the same core they've had that wasn't good enough a year ago. Meanwhile, the rest of us move on.

I think we're clutching at straws to try and justify or lessen the blow of probably being left at the altar..
The Bombers list is good. The players have had a huge burden on on their mind the past few seasons, and I think it's very naive to assume this hasn't had a big effect on their ladder position.

I am really miffed that out of this disaster the Bombers created, they are actually going to come out of it in a stronger position. They've retained their most important players and the player ban this year has ensured they will finish last and thus will receive a number 1 pick in both national and pre-season draft.
So not only have they retained their talent, but because of this fiasco, they're now in a prime position to inject (pardon the pun) top level talent to the club...and will I fear, quickly become a force greater than what they would've been prior to their punishment.
Without the bans, they would not have ever been in a position to get number 1 pick. The AFL should've intervened before the start of the season and make an adjudication that Essendon would not be eligible for the 1st pick. And maybe capped their draft position based on last year's ladder position.
What a punishment...

[Twodogs]

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This is just going to get worse for Essendon. If they think things were bad for them then just wait until people find out about the salary cap cheating. They are meant to lay a price because they cheated and that price isn't meant yo be just this year. The price include players who were hard done by leaving.

If the AFL and Essendon think that this is it then they are about to be very badly disappointed. The media will not wear it, supporters of other clubs won't wear it and the government won't wear it. If the AFL executive want to end their days standing over and protecting the rotting carcass of Essendon then they are welcome to do it. Essendon's problems have barely started unless they get the idea through their heads that they are in a world of pain for a few more seasons yet.

They don't get to walk away from this bruise free.

[1eyedog]

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Q: What are the first five words an Essendon coach in a three piece tailored suit hears?
A: Will the defendant please rise.

[comrade]

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This is just going to get worse for Essendon. If they think things were bad for them then just wait until people find out about the salary cap cheating. They are meant to lay a price because they cheated and that price isn't meant yo be just this year. The price include players who were hard done by leaving.

If the AFL and Essendon think that this is it then they are about to be very badly disappointed. The media will not wear it, supporters of other clubs won't wear it and the government won't wear it. If the AFL executive want to end their days standing over and protecting the rotting carcass of Essendon then they are welcome to do it. Essendon's problems have barely started unless they get the idea through their heads that they are in a world of pain for a few more seasons yet.

They don't get to walk away from this bruise free.

Wishful thinking. The AFL will cover it up and the AFL sanctioned media will look the other way, rather than risk biting the hand that feeds them.

[Ghost Dog]

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I think we're clutching at straws to try and justify or lessen the blow of probably being left at the altar..
The Bombers list is good. The players have had a huge burden on on their mind the past few seasons, and I think it's very naive to assume this hasn't had a big effect on their ladder position.

I am really miffed that out of this disaster the Bombers created, they are actually going to come out of it in a stronger position. They've retained their most important players and the player ban this year has ensured they will finish last and thus will receive a number 1 pick in both national and pre-season draft.
So not only have they retained their talent, but because of this fiasco, they're now in a prime position to inject (pardon the pun) top level talent to the club...and will I fear, quickly become a force greater than what they would've been prior to their punishment.
Without the bans, they would not have ever been in a position to get number 1 pick. The AFL should've intervened before the start of the season and make an adjudication that Essendon would not be eligible for the 1st pick. And maybe capped their draft position based on last year's ladder position.
What a punishment...

Might be wrong, but I just don't think the cards will fall that way. We will see, but Melbourne tried ( tanking ) and got the best picks in the country. It wasn't translated into success. Why? They might come out in a stronger position on paper, but wether or not they have had the clean out to ensure the proper leaders are in place remains a huge question.

I don't know why people have a problem with Essendon being in a strong position. We are a better club than them, and look forward to battling them in the future and being a better team for it. I'm confident our direction is better than theirs.
As a Bulldogs fan, I only worry about what we are doing and we can control. It's the only way to support a smaller club. Just try to enjoy each goal we score, each improvement. If there is inherent unfairness in the system, it's right to call it out though.