Michael Hurley

**1eyedog** · 03-09-2016, 02:14 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

Jesus I'm not talking about the Black Dog fatal fits of depression here I'm talking a regret when he's 50 that he's not a premiership player, no reunions, no dynasties he just goes down as another Essendon schmo.

**Twodogs** · 03-09-2016, 02:17 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

Originally posted by Topdog

Yeah I was about to ask. Watson still has his Brownlow.

The AFL are waiting for him to give it up voluntarily but it's in stasis at the moment because of his appeal. When that is decided and it goes against the players then ASADA will make the AFL comply and take the medal away. If the appeal goes for the players then he keeps it.

Watson won his Brownlow in 2012? What about other awards like AA and the players association? Do they get handed back?

I think Hurley was AA last year wasn't he? I think that falls outside the timeframe that WADA set for the players being performance enhanced.

**1eyedog** · 03-09-2016, 02:20 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

I can't wait for the day that Watson hands over his Brownlow.

**The Underdog** · 03-09-2016, 02:37 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

Originally posted by 1eyedog

Jesus I'm not talking about the Black Dog fatal fits of depression here I'm talking a regret when he's 50 that he's not a premiership player, no reunions, no dynasties he just goes down as another Essendon schmo.

Essendon are probably as equal a chance as we are to win a premiership before he retires. Chances are neither of us do.

**comrade** · 03-09-2016, 02:46 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

Originally posted by The Underdog

Essendon are probably as equal a chance as we are to win a premiership before he retires. Chances are neither of us do.

Mr Sunshine over here.

**The Underdog** · 03-09-2016, 03:01 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

Originally posted by comrade

Mr Sunshine over here.

Hurley has probably 6-7 years left. There is 18 teams. Weight of numbers suggests neither team will win the premiership in his time.
To bitch about Hurley's decision to stick with the team he started with and infer he'll miss out on glory and regret it because of that decision seems a stretch. We laud Chris Grant who made basically the same decision(albeit under different circumstances). I wonder what his career regrets are.
Perhaps I need to be more partisan on a partisan board.

**comrade** · 03-09-2016, 03:05 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

Originally posted by The Underdog

Perhaps I need to be more partisan on a partisan board.

Probably.

**Topdog** · 03-09-2016, 04:18 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

Originally posted by 1eyedog

Jesus I'm not talking about the Black Dog fatal fits of depression here I'm talking a regret when he's 50 that he's not a premiership player, no reunions, no dynasties he just goes down as another Essendon schmo.

As opposed to 50, still not a premiership player, no dynasties, even less reunions because he walked out on a club.

**comrade** · 03-09-2016, 04:20 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

Originally posted by Topdog

As opposed to 50, still not a premiership player, no dynasties, even less reunions because he walked out on a club.

Yep, now he can reminisce with his old mates about that time the club systematically jabbed them with different drugs, which led to a significant chunk of their career being ruined and how it led to mega payouts but ultimately no success. Those were good times.

**Rocco Jones** · 03-09-2016, 04:39 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

Jeepers, I know a player not accepting a deal from us doesn't make him that lovable but really guys? We REALLY think this guy is that bad a bloke/made that bad a decision to stick with his club? I know he is getting $$$, but I am not a massive admirer of a player jumping onto a contender bandwagon (neither am I a knocker of them).

I know there's bias but 'woweeeee!' (That dickhead, every time he commentates).

**comrade** · 03-09-2016, 04:50 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

Originally posted by Rocco Jones

Jeepers, I know a player not accepting a deal from us doesn't make him that lovable but really guys? We REALLY think this guy is that bad a bloke/made that bad a decision to stick with his club? I know he is getting $$$, but I am not a massive admirer of a player jumping onto a contender bandwagon (neither am I a knocker of them).

I know there's bias but 'woweeeee!' (That dickhead, every time he commentates).

His manager (and Hurley by extension) strung us along to leverage a big deal out of Essendon. Likely he was never moving and everything was just a ploy to get big $$$$ out of his own team. While doing so, we have tied up resources in pursuing a wild goose chase that may have put us out of the race for other players as it's been reported in the media we've left our run too late to secure Marchbank. Some may say good on him, his manager did his job. I say he and his manager are flogs and Hurley deserves to end his career with no success at that festering pit of cheating scum.

**Rocco Jones** · 03-09-2016, 04:59 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

Originally posted by comrade

His manager (and Hurley by extension) strung us along to leverage a big deal out of Essendon. Likely he was never moving and everything was just a ploy to get big $$$$ out of his own team. While doing so, we have tied up resources in pursuing a wild goose chase that may have put us out of the race for other players as it's been reported in the media we've left our run too late to secure Marchbank. Some may say good on him, his manager did his job. I say he and his manager are flogs and Hurley deserves to end his career with no success at that festering pit of cheating scum.

Look I hope Hurley breaks all his bones (I mean that in the nicest way possible) but can declare a lot of bias in that call. I don't think what he did was that bad.

**Remi Moses** · 03-09-2016, 05:34 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

It was interesting that player managers spoken to all throught he was going to stay .
Connors used clubs to garner a better deal out of Essendon, and he's just doing his job .
But the whole loyality card doesn't stack up when he didn't agree when the initial contract was offered a month or so before he signed

**1eyedog** · 03-09-2016, 06:36 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

Originally posted by The Underdog

Hurley has probably 6-7 years left. There is 18 teams. Weight of numbers suggests neither team will win the premiership in his time.
To bitch about Hurley's decision to stick with the team he started with and infer he'll miss out on glory and regret it because of that decision seems a stretch. We laud Chris Grant who made basically the same decision(albeit under different circumstances). I wonder what his career regrets are.
Perhaps I need to be more partisan on a partisan board.

No not at all - by all means fire away. I'm generally stuck in fantasy worlds every waking hour my son is awake, it's not a stretch to think that I'm being overly protective of what he did to us any more than it is perfectly reasonable to make the decision he did. If the Bulldogs are rejected I'm rejected, I've just been through too much with this club over so long. A player's rejection of our club is a personal rejection, I'm embedded and I'm 1eyedog, sometimes I do live up to my alias.

Contrary to how you feel on the subject I feel we are on the cusp of something really special and I think every player, coach, administrative staff members [and most supporters] feel the same.

**Twodogs** · 03-09-2016, 06:40 PM

Re: Michael Hurley

Originally posted by Rocco Jones

Look I hope Hurley breaks all his bones (I mean that in the nicest way possible) but can declare a lot of bias in that call. I don't think what he did was that bad.

I undesrstand. You're the nicest person possible.

If I were to have all my bones broken I'd want it to be by you.

Michael Hurley

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