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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11245

    Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

    Gerard The Oracle 2.4 Whateley is telling us all what a wonderful job Steve Hocking and the competition committee is doing. Surely that is sufficient enough for us mere mortals lol.
    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21825

      Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

      Originally posted by Sedat
      Gerard The Oracle 2.4 Whateley is telling us all what a wonderful job Steve Hocking and the competition committee is doing. Surely that is sufficient enough for us mere mortals lol.
      Hocking spoke of the high quality and convincing data that's been gathered from the small amount of games the changes have been trialed within to justify a switch in rules. I would like to see this data, because, as a relatively analytical person I think I'd be set at ease if I could.

      Both Robbo and 2.4 were singing the praises of the process and suggested the AFL wouldn't do anything radical to the rules unless they'd done the work and there was a solid case. Cool, just share the data so we can all look at it and can give you permission to potentially *!*!*!*! the game up, because after all, it's our game and not theirs.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66700

        Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

        Originally posted by jeemak
        Hocking spoke of the high quality and convincing data that's been gathered from the small amount of games the changes have been trialed within to justify a switch in rules. I would like to see this data, because, as a relatively analytical person I think I'd be set at ease if I could.

        Both Robbo and 2.4 were singing the praises of the process and suggested the AFL wouldn't do anything radical to the rules unless they'd done the work and there was a solid case. Cool, just share the data so we can all look at it and can give you permission to potentially *!*!*!*! the game up, because after all, it's our game and not theirs.
        Apparently Hocking went to a half of a VFL match - that convinced him

        The other moron pushing these changes is Blight. Heard him with Whately this morning. Can't stand his opinions about the game.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Sedat
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2007
          • 11245

          Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

          Originally posted by jeemak
          Hocking spoke of the high quality and convincing data that's been gathered from the small amount of games the changes have been trialed within to justify a switch in rules. I would like to see this data, because, as a relatively analytical person I think I'd be set at ease if I could.

          Both Robbo and 2.4 were singing the praises of the process and suggested the AFL wouldn't do anything radical to the rules unless they'd done the work and there was a solid case. Cool, just share the data so we can all look at it and can give you permission to potentially *!*!*!*! the game up, because after all, it's our game and not theirs.
          Hocking and his media fluffers have been trotting that party line for months now with no sign of this data anywhere. Maybe it is safely tucked away in crates in Roswell.
          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21825

            Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Apparently Hocking went to a half of a VFL match - that convinced him

            The other moron pushing these changes is Blight. Heard him with Whately this morning. Can't stand his opinions about the game.
            I've always said Blight doesn't put enough tobacco in with his weed. He's out of control.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11841

              Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

              Originally posted by Sedat
              Hocking and his media fluffers have been trotting that party line for months now with no sign of this data anywhere. Maybe it is safely tucked away in crates in Roswell.
              They left it at the reception at ASADA's offices.
              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • Hotdog60
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2009
                • 5904

                Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                If it wasn't for the Dogs I would not be following this sport. I think every paid up member of the football community should get to do a postal vote on rule changes. That would eliminate the casual flybuy supporters and if you want a say you pay up to do so.
                The game is changing too much when there was nothing wrong with the rules 40 years ago.
                Don't piss off old people
                The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66700

                  Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                  Originally posted by Hotdog60
                  If it wasn't for the Dogs I would not be following this sport. I think every paid up member of the football community should get to do a postal vote on rule changes. That would eliminate the casual flybuy supporters and if you want a say you pay up to do so.
                  The game is changing too much when there was nothing wrong with the rules 40 years ago.
                  WE don't need a postal vote, simple, we don't need changes.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • mjp
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7363

                    Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                    6-6-6 seems like a great rule to me.
                    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11245

                      Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                      Originally posted by mjp
                      6-6-6 seems like a great rule to me.
                      I mentioned this elsewhere but I would have liked to see the natural levers in the game being pulled before considering a structural change like 6-6-6. The natural levers need to be simplified in any event because the game in its current form is almost impossible to umpire:

                      Much quicker ball-ups, boundary throw-ins
                      No prior opp - either it is HTB/incorrect disposal or it is incorrect tackle.
                      Drastically reduced interchange - 10 per qtr max.

                      6-6-6 will certainly make the last 2 minutes of a close game exciting. No more flooding back en masse.
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • Missing-Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 3102

                        Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                        These proposed rule changes are doing nothing at all to get me back through the gates.

                        Head Office has really lost the plot.

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15445

                          Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                          Originally posted by mjp
                          6-6-6 seems like a great rule to me.
                          But what happens if the ball isn't cleared and we get repeat stoppage/s? This rule isn't in play and players will swarm around the ball and behind the ball.

                          Personally I have more issue with the way the ground is set up after a point (18 man defensive zones hurt my eyes) and from stoppages around the ground where the field is condensed and feel starting points in these situations would be a better idea.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66700

                            Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            6-6-6 seems like a great rule to me.
                            for 20 seconds after a goal and start of the quarter
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • Topdog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7471

                              Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                              People realise they are talking to someone who watches 6-6-6 every week when they ask these "hypotheticals" yeah?

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                              • mjp
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7363

                                Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                                Originally posted by Mantis
                                But what happens if the ball isn't cleared and we get repeat stoppage/s? This rule isn't in play and players will swarm around the ball and behind the ball.

                                Personally I have more issue with the way the ground is set up after a point (18 man defensive zones hurt my eyes) and from stoppages around the ground where the field is condensed and feel starting points in these situations would be a better idea.
                                No issue with what you are saying...but if the ball IS cleared then we have equal numbers ahead of/behind the ball.

                                I have had my say on kick-ins and 18-player zones and I still think the 3+ 2 rule (each team must have 3 players inside forward half + 2 inside 50) for every stoppage and kick-in...once play resumes, they go where they want and reset...

                                It turns an 18-man zone (aka 36 man zone) into a 13 man zone (26 man zone) in the blink of an eye. Been doing this at 18's level - including the champs - for 5 years. It is simple, easy to understand (for players and spectators) and it WORKS.

                                The goal-square idea doesn't make much sense to me BUT I have never seen it in action so it is hard to comment.
                                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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