Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

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  • anfo27
    WOOF Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2002

    #46
    Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

    Originally posted by bornadog
    What are GWS looking for and do we have that player?

    A lot of their players now are reaching 100 games plus, so I doubt they need established players.
    GWS want picks. They need to shed salary so offering a player in a deal to get Kelly defeats the purpose of trading Kelly in the first place, if the whispers are true. They need to get rid of at least 5 just to have their 3 picks at the ND. So Marchbank, Ahern, Pickett, Stewart & Steele are the 5 but just that 5 will not give them the cap relief they need. Their picks thus far are 2, 15, 31, 37, 51 & 55. I would think they are taking 4 kids with 2 of those Academy gems so they would be looking at another high pick so really they walk away with 4 first rounders.
    I would be finding a way to get Freos pick 7 even if we give them our pick 18 & something else, then pick 7 & our first pick next year for Kelly. Might need to throw in another pick this year to give them the extra points they need.

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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13235

      #47
      Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

      Originally posted by anfo27
      GWS want picks. They need to shed salary so offering a player in a deal to get Kelly defeats the purpose of trading Kelly in the first place, if the whispers are true. They need to get rid of at least 5 just to have their 3 picks at the ND. So Marchbank, Ahern, Pickett, Stewart & Steele are the 5 but just that 5 will not give them the cap relief they need. Their picks thus far are 2, 15, 31, 37, 51 & 55. I would think they are taking 4 kids with 2 of those Academy gems so they would be looking at another high pick so really they walk away with 4 first rounders.
      I would be finding a way to get Freos pick 7 even if we give them our pick 18 & something else, then pick 7 & our first pick next year for Kelly. Might need to throw in another pick this year to give them the extra points they need.
      There is no way we are breaking into the top 8 picks without giving a up best 22 player.
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #48
        Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

        Originally posted by 1eyedog
        GWS would piss themselves at that scenario. It's a good crack at it BT but all it shows me is just how far we away. Would need to send a best 22 player up there IMO.
        That's why I've said some sort of future pick as well. I'd like to see us get involved between Carlton & GWS and see where it leads us.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • anfo27
          WOOF Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2002

          #49
          Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

          Originally posted by 1eyedog
          There is no way we are breaking into the top 8 picks without giving a up best 22 player.
          Hamling & pick 18?

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          • 1eyedog
            Hall of Fame
            • Mar 2008
            • 13235

            #50
            Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

            Duplicate post
            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13235

              #51
              Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

              Originally posted by anfo27
              Hamling & pick 18?
              I wouldn't think so given word they will offer a late pick for him.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13235

                #52
                Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                GWS will go hard on Kelly and demand pick 18 and next years 1st round pick as well. Is Kelly worth it given we'll have needs down back if Adams goes as well?
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                • anfo27
                  WOOF Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2002

                  #53
                  Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                  Originally posted by 1eyedog
                  GWS will go hard on Kelly and demand pick 18 and next years 1st round pick as well. Is Kelly worth it given we'll have needs down back if Adams goes as well?
                  I'm sure if they wanted that the deal would be done in 5 min. That is a steal for Kelly.

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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13235

                    #54
                    Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                    Maybe, he is a gun, a 10 year player and critical to them.
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • KT31
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 5454

                      #55
                      Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                      Is anyone else feeling a little underwhelmed at the moment ?
                      We have lost a defender, another wants out and we have a few fringe player to go, not anything really being reported on who we are chasing etc.
                      I understand the Hurley deal may have us looking at plan B or C but still no reports.
                      I 'm not suggesting we trade for the sake of trading but we have money and cap space, Gordo said we would be major players and we do have some gaps that need filling.
                      I just thought a week in we would know more by now.
                      It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                      • G-Mo77
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9876

                        #56
                        Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                        I don't think we're alone there KT31 lot of teams don't seem to be doing anything in the public eye.

                        I don't think we'll be major players in any deals though, winning it all probably changed our plans a little and retention has been more of a focus. Get Cloke and try and get as high as possible picks with departing players and I think that's a good trade period.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66708

                          #57
                          Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                          Originally posted by KT31
                          Is anyone else feeling a little underwhelmed at the moment ?
                          We have lost a defender, another wants out and we have a few fringe player to go, not anything really being reported on who we are chasing etc.
                          I understand the Hurley deal may have us looking at plan B or C but still no reports.
                          I 'm not suggesting we trade for the sake of trading but we have money and cap space, Gordo said we would be major players and we do have some gaps that need filling.
                          I just thought a week in we would know more by now.
                          Barrett still feels we are working on something from left field, but he doesn't know what and is a little pissed off. He expects we will come up with something in the next few days.
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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #58
                            Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Barrett still feels we are working on something from left field, but he doesn't know what and is a little pissed off. He expects we will come up with something in the next few days.
                            He did say we are now officially a 'destination club' though. It's going to be big...
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13235

                              #59
                              Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Barrett still feels we are working on something from left field, but he doesn't know what and is a little pissed off. He expects we will come up with something in the next few days.
                              Well we have to there's about 70 hours left. I've actually been a bit surprised and a little miffed that no-one has nominated the Bulldogs, unless of course they have and we've said no because we're working in the background on the masterpiece.
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #60
                                Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                                Originally posted by 1eyedog
                                Well we have to there's about 70 hours left. I've actually been a bit surprised and a little miffed that no-one has nominated the Bulldogs, unless of course they have and we've said no because we're working in the background on the masterpiece.
                                JMac on Thursday is going to make the Michael Corleone ending of Part 1 look weak. We have waited and will execute all trades with clinical precision that concentrates our power.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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