Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44622

    #61
    Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Barrett still feels we are working on something from left field, but he doesn't know what and is a little pissed off. He expects we will come up with something in the next few days.
    So why are now we validating his opinions after spending all year dismissing them?
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13235

      #62
      Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      So why are now we validating his opinions after spending all year dismissing them?
      Because we are 70 hours out from D-Day, haven't heard a peep and we're all sitting on the edge of our seats for any morsel industry insiders throw at us?
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44622

        #63
        Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

        Originally posted by 1eyedog
        Because we are 70 hours out from D-Day, haven't heard a peep and we're all sitting on the edge of our seats for any morsel industry insiders throw at us?
        But he isn't actually saying anything
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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13235

          #64
          Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          But he isn't actually saying anything
          Connotation.

          More connotations re. the Bulldogs from the Trade Whisperer (it is the silly season)

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          Plenty of good young kids coming through. They'll play their cards this week #AFLTrades
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • azabob
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 15302

            #65
            Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            JMac on Thursday is going to make the Michael Corleone ending of Part 1 look weak. We have waited and will execute all trades with clinical precision that concentrates our power.
            And the last minute the fax machine will jam or the internet will drop out and the deal won't go through!
            More of an In Bruges guy?

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66688

              #66
              Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              So why are now we validating his opinions after spending all year dismissing them?
              Who is validating, I am just reporting what he said.
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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #67
                Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                Originally posted by azabob
                And the last minute the fax machine will jam or the internet will drop out and the deal won't go through!
                Have no fear, BT is here to make sure it goes through.
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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #68
                  Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                  If it's just about the draft now, I wonder if Carlton trade Gibbs, and use that pick 13 for Marchbank & Pickett (getting pick 37 back) whether they'd consider our 35 (& 74, 75 if they want them) & Hrovat for 25? (Swapping second rounders)

                  GCS have picks 24 & 26. We could offer GCS 18, 43 & Stevens/whatever Stevens gets us, which gives them a very big draft points victory.

                  We take to the draft 24, 25 & 26.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #69
                    Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                    To The Draft Baby!!!!

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                    • BulldogBelle
                      WOOF Member
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 5284

                      #70
                      Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                      Originally posted by redders70
                      To The Draft Baby!!!!
                      Done pretty good at the draft recently

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44622

                        #71
                        Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                        So we have until 2pm tomorrow to finalise our trade strategy for this year.

                        Outstanding trades that we think we need to complete are:
                        - Finalising the trade for Travis Cloke (likely to be for our pick 61)
                        - Working out a deal with StKilda for Kobe Stevens (likely to be for the Saints pick 50)
                        - Seeing if a deal for Nathan Hrovat can be completed with one of a few clubs who are interested

                        We don't appear to be linked to any players that are currently in discussions with other clubs

                        The playing list
                        Having now lost Hamling to Fremantle and knowing that Minson has retired plus it's likely that we will lose both Stevens and Hrovat it's certainly opened up some gaps within our list. There might be a question on if we keep Prudden on the senior list as well.
                        There is also a consideration that Marcus Adams has put his hand up to leave at the end of next season and that Murphy, Morris and M.Boyd are unlikely to be playing in 2018 but you never know.

                        With all that in mind it points to gaps in our key defensive positions and that we need to find some support for Roughead and Campbell in the ruck.

                        The question marks
                        - Does anyone think we will address any of these gaps during the balance of this trade period?
                        - Are we likely to make any trade for an established player other than Cloke?
                        - Has our strategy all along been to strengthen our draft position?
                        - Could we recruit someone as a deleted free agent to fill a need after this trade period?

                        and most importantly:
                        - Is there a specific trade you would like the club to try and complete?

                        I'd be very interested in your thoughts.
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                        • Dogs 24/7
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 1196

                          #72
                          Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                          Would a pitch to GWS about getting James Stewart be worth a try ? He's a good size and mobile and I wonder if he could be turned into a CHB ? He hasn't proven himself as a senior player so he should come cheaply. Based on some other posts and what Ive read on what pick Essendon or Carlton might offer if we did get pick 50 for Kobe we could trump them.
                          For what its worth I think he is further advanced than Hamling was when we got him. A year with LB might do him wonders
                          Its unlikely but I hope we are looking at a few things.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66688

                            #73
                            Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                            Originally posted by Dogs 24/7
                            Would a pitch to GWS about getting James Stewart be worth a try ? He's a good size and mobile and I wonder if he could be turned into a CHB ? He hasn't proven himself as a senior player so he should come cheaply. Based on some other posts and what Ive read on what pick Essendon or Carlton might offer if we did get pick 50 for Kobe we could trump them.
                            For what its worth I think he is further advanced than Hamling was when we got him. A year with LB might do him wonders
                            Its unlikely but I hope we are looking at a few things.
                            Yesterday Stewart nominated Essendon as his preferred club, so not sure if we can get him to change his mind. As a player, I have little idea if he is worth chasing.
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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #74
                              Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                              As it stands we have picks 18, 35, 43 and 61 (and irrelevant lower picks with no points value).

                              Presumably we'll get further 2nd/3rd round picks for Stevens and Hrovat (possibly others) whilst only using 61 at most for Cloke.

                              Barring any further trades, we'll have more marketable picks than we can use. Do we bundle these to rise up the order?

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66688

                                #75
                                Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                The question marks
                                - Does anyone think we will address any of these gaps during the balance of this trade period?
                                - Are we likely to make any trade for an established player other than Cloke?
                                - Has our strategy all along been to strengthen our draft position?
                                - Could we recruit someone as a deleted free agent to fill a need after this trade period?

                                and most importantly:
                                - Is there a specific trade you would like the club to try and complete?
                                .
                                * I doubt we will address all of the gaps you point out. I am sure the plan is to keep developing the likes of Williams, Lynch, Webb to help cover some of the future gaps.

                                * I wouldn't be surprised if we brought in another established player, but I also think it will surprise us. We may bring in someone through the rookie list as history has shown.

                                * I think we are trying to strengthen our draft position. We are holding back on completing the Hrovat and Stevens trades which tells me we are also working on an exchange of picks.

                                * Possible to look at delisted free agents if the trade doesn't give us what we want.

                                * Not fussed on who I would like to come in as it may be difficult to get a decent player as well as improving our draft position. Love to get Trengrove
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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