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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14113

    Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

    Originally posted by chef
    Im sure we thought the same about Ward.
    That was our fault not his. He asked for a contract to sign we held back.
    100% clubs fault.
    Bring back the biff

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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14579

      Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

      Originally posted by ledge
      That was our fault not his. He asked for a contract to sign we held back.
      100% clubs fault.
      Theres no such thing as an untouchable player.
      The curse is dead.

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      • ledge
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2007
        • 14113

        Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

        Originally posted by chef
        Theres no such thing as an untouchable player.
        That’s if your going to offer the world and that’s not possible.
        I still believe their are, it’s not as common as it was but I still believe their are players who won’t leave clubs around.
        Bring back the biff

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        • bulldogsthru&thru
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • May 2011
          • 7708

          Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

          Brad Lynch is poised to sign a 2-year deal to stay at the dogs. Apparently had interest from other clubs so good to see

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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9873

            Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

            #lolnorf

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66065

              Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

              Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
              Brad Lynch is poised to sign a 2-year deal to stay at the dogs. Apparently had interest from other clubs so good to see

              http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-1...-at-the-kennel
              I don't get what he is signed as? A senior player or a rookie?
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              • bulldogsthru&thru
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • May 2011
                • 7708

                Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                Originally posted by bornadog
                I don't get what he is signed as? A senior player or a rookie?
                That's the 3rd signing already that we have had this confusion.

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                • Hot_Doggies
                  Rookie List
                  • May 2009
                  • 396

                  Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                  Of course it’s the senior list.

                  He wouldn’t turn down offers from other clubs to go back on our rookie list!

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66065

                    Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                    Originally posted by Hot_Doggies
                    Of course it’s the senior list.

                    He wouldn’t turn down offers from other clubs to go back on our rookie list!
                    I guess what I was asking is how do you get on the senior list before draft day? There must be some rule.
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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14113

                      Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      I guess what I was asking is how do you get on the senior list before draft day? There must be some rule.
                      If your a rookie the club can put you on the senior list, that’s the idea of a rookie they weren’t picked up so they get the opportunity to be like a sub and club gets to look at them, that club gets to put them on the senior list without going into the draft if they want.
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • soupman
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 5090

                        Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        I guess what I was asking is how do you get on the senior list before draft day? There must be some rule.
                        They just get promoted to the senior list upon the start of the new contract.

                        On draft night their name is read to next to a pick but as far as i know that is purely ceremonial and there is no other benefit/cost to upgrading them than the new contract. Also usually people are worried about getting picks to upgrade their rookies with. i believe this is irrelevant, you will keep generating picks infintely so will always have a pick at the end of the draft to upgrade a rookie with if need be.
                        I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                        • Axe Man
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 10986

                          Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          I guess what I was asking is how do you get on the senior list before draft day? There must be some rule.
                          Rookie listed players can be elevated to the primary list prior to the draft. 2013 was the last time clubs had to use draft picks in the national draft to promote rookies.

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                          • Axe Man
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 10986

                            Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                            Originally posted by soupaman
                            They just get promoted to the senior list upon the start of the new contract.

                            On draft night their name is read to next to a pick but as far as i know that is purely ceremonial and there is no other benefit/cost to upgrading them than the new contract. Also usually people are worried about getting picks to upgrade their rookies with. i believe this is irrelevant, you will keep generating picks infintely so will always have a pick at the end of the draft to upgrade a rookie with if need be.
                            Nope, 2013 was the last time national draft picks were used on rookies.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                              Originally posted by Axe Man
                              Nope, 2013 was the last time national draft picks were used on rookies.
                              True, but soup is also right too. What will happen is when we've finished using the picks we want on actual draftees, we will elevate rookies into the remaining spots.

                              So say we finish at pick 80. Then we have 98 &116. Gowers & Lynch will automatically take the last spots. That's the incentive of the rookie list, to use unwanted late picks to elevate what was speculative talent. We are not using the picks in a 'live sense' but we inform the AFL that we are elevating them in the picks and that's that.

                              Whatever the mechanisms, we are adding Gowers & Lynch for unwanted late picks. That's a nice reward for them, and for the club.
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                              • Axe Man
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10986

                                Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                True, but soup is also right too. What will happen is when we've finished using the picks we want on actual draftees, we will elevate rookies into the remaining spots.

                                So say we finish at pick 80. Then we have 98 &116. Gowers & Lynch will automatically take the last spots. That's the incentive of the rookie list, to use unwanted late picks to elevate what was speculative talent. We are not using the picks in a 'live sense' but we inform the AFL that we are elevating them in the picks and that's that.

                                Whatever the mechanisms, we are adding Gowers & Lynch for unwanted late picks. That's a nice reward for them, and for the club.
                                I was responding to the part I bolded where he said "On draft night their name is read to next to a pick". This does not happen any more. In your example we aren't using 98 and 116 to elevate the rookies - those picks won't exist. The rookie promotions are done prior draft night so you only have the number of picks that correspond to the number of vacant primary list spots.

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