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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

    Originally posted by The Doctor
    Going by BT's opening thread this is who we have left for 2019 to contract or not. I've included 3 from the 2020 group that I would be trying to secure ahead of the remaining 2019 group.
    The list tells me that this year we should turnover the list harder this year, because if we can re-sign the 2020 names you point out, next year looks like a minimal change year. I can see 8 or 9 changes (inc. the two retirements already) without being too radical about it. Some trades, free agents, half way decent picks, father/sons, academy options and rookie upgrades should allow us not to have too many late picks.

    I'm hoping for a Bailey Smith extension soon.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Axe Man
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 11207

      Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66857

        Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        I can see 8 or 9 changes (inc. the two retirements already)
        Here are 8

        2019:
        Fletcher Roberts
        Lukas Webb
        Bailey Dale
        Lewis Young
        Bailey Williams
        Callum Porter
        Matt Suckling
        Dale Morris
        Tory Dickson
        Ryan Gardner



        Plus two retired

        PS: Morris may play on, time will tell
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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Here are 8

          2019:
          Fletcher Roberts
          Lukas Webb
          Bailey Dale
          Lewis Young
          Bailey Williams
          Callum Porter
          Matt Suckling
          Dale Morris
          Tory Dickson
          Ryan Gardner



          Plus two retired

          PS: Morris may play on, time will tell
          Yep. There's a good size that can/should go this year. I've only being thinking today whether we are getting $350,000+ value out of Suckling next year based on this year's output. If not, or with some injuries he pursues the NFL thing, that extra salary cap could super-size the already huge war chest in salary cap we have this trade period. Alternatively, if we are happy and Suckers is happy, he plays on for I imagine another year.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 11207

            Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Here are 8

            2019:
            Fletcher Roberts
            Lukas Webb
            Bailey Dale
            Lewis Young
            Bailey Williams
            Callum Porter
            Matt Suckling
            Dale Morris
            Tory Dickson
            Ryan Gardner



            Plus two retired

            PS: Morris may play on, time will tell
            We also need to bear in mind that Gardner cancels out one of the outgoing list spots if he stays as he is effectively an extra at the moment.

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

              Originally posted by Axe Man
              We also need to bear in mind that Gardner cancels out one of the outgoing list spots if he stays as he is effectively an extra at the moment.
              If he's a rookie, I'm assuming we could simply delist a rookie and break even if we want to retain RG. Or elevate La Young, open up a rookie spot that way and if we want to retain RG use that spot and still have just the 4 rookies.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 11207

                Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                If he's a rookie, I'm assuming we could simply delist a rookie and break even if we want to retain RG. Or elevate La Young, open up a rookie spot that way and if we want to retain RG use that spot and still have just the 4 rookies.
                Yes but he's still taking up a spot if he stays. I'm just talking overall list numbers. We effectively have a list of 45 at the moment and it will need to be reduced to 44 (ignoring any potential category B/international rookies).

                There are a number of different ways we can use the rookie list.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  Yes but he's still taking up a spot if he stays. I'm just talking overall list numbers. We effectively have a list of 45 at the moment and it will need to be reduced to 44 (ignoring any potential category B/international rookies).

                  There are a number of different ways we can use the rookie list.
                  What will be interesting is if Naughton, Schache, Trengove & English all stay fit and Gardner doesn't play again this year at AFEL level... Have we picked him for long term so he gets a rookie spot regardless, or was this a job interview and he doesn't get the chance to claim a spot. Is his 2020 season as an AFEL player all but guaranteed?

                  If so, then it must surely be a rookie. Sweet looks to have done enough to stay on. La Young has an extension and Buku will stay. So that tells me there's a very high chance La Young will get promoted, or déjà vu all over again and maybe even Roarke gets a one year elevation contract. If we cut up to 9, assuming we can land 3-4 trades of players in, maybe Kellett very late as a FS, that's 4-5 spots open at the draft. One or two rookie elevations might make that easier if the picks are very late. So Gardner is then retained and potentially one live rookie draft pick at 6 (please no delisted players Sam P) or an SSP vacancy.

                  Thinking now more about the rookie list, I'd think all 5 will be at the club next year.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13246

                    Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Here are 8

                    2019:
                    Fletcher Roberts
                    Lukas Webb
                    Bailey Dale
                    Lewis Young
                    Bailey Williams
                    Callum Porter
                    Matt Suckling
                    Dale Morris
                    Tory Dickson
                    Ryan Gardner



                    Plus two retired

                    PS: Morris may play on, time will tell
                    Dale will get one more crack at it to prove his worth.
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14348

                      Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                      Originally posted by 1eyedog
                      Dale will get one more crack at it to prove his worth.
                      Dale Morris or Bailey Dale ?
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44731

                        Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                        Originally posted by ledge
                        Dale Morris or Bailey Dale ?
                        Are you kidding ?
                        In what uniiverse would anyone think Dale Morris has something to prove?
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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66857

                          Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          Are you kidding ?
                          In what uniiverse would anyone think Dale Morris has something to prove?
                          all Morris has to prove is whether his body can stand up to another season
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                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14348

                            Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            all Morris has to prove is whether his body can stand up to another season
                            Exactly why I asked which Dale .
                            Morris has to have a good injury free rest of the year.
                            Bailey is so far above VFL level but needs a few games at AFL Level in a row to show he can do it, sadly he has got injured whenever he has started to show something.
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • AshMac
                              WOOF Member
                              • Aug 2018
                              • 1712

                              Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                              Any word on bailey williams contract?

                              Disappointing start to year - I’m thinking there’s something behind the scenes Bevo doesn’t like - but hitting his straps now and is responding to the coach.

                              Would love him to stay. Know the crowd enquires a year or two ago.
                              The dam wall has busted!

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66857

                                Re: WBFC - Player Contract Status

                                Lewis Young Locked in -- whoooo
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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